Glad to help. In a way I sort of like software RAID better than hardware RAID, because of workarounds like this. I've had a 3ware hardware raid card fail, and there was nothing I could do until I snagged another 3ware card from ebay. I also had an old promise raid card drop 2 drives at once, but there was no option to force the array back together without a rebuild. I have so far been lucky enough to recover from multi-drive failures every time when using software RAID. As far as performance, I benchmarked a server we have that has a 12 disk software RAID5, and it got the highest IO of any server I had tested, and that was with crappy ATA-133 PATA drives. I also experience lots of problems with those darn Dell PERC raid controllers - they seem to like to flake out for no reason. Joe Fleming wrote: > You're my savior man! I found a post on some forum talking about using > mdadm --examine to check the superblock on the drives. /dev/sdc1 was a > complete no show, but /dev/sdd1 (which was also failed) looked ok, > though outdated. I deactivated the array with mdadm --stop /dev/md0 > and forced an assemble with the command you gave me. > > mdadm --assemble --force /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdd1 > > And I'm back online! Time to copy files off ASAP. I still hear the > chirping noise, from one of the drives, but at least it's back up. > Thanks again! > > -Joe > > Charles Jones wrote: >> Joe Fleming wrote: >>> Hey all, I have a Debian box that was acting as a 4 drive RAID-5 >>> mdadm softraid server. I heard one of the drives making strange >>> noises but mdstat reported no problems with any of the drives. I >>> decided to copy the data off the array so I had a backup before I >>> tried to figure out which drive it was. Unfortunately, in the middle >>> of copying said data, 2 of the drives dropped out at the same time. >>> Since RAID-5 is only tolerant to one failure at a time, basically >>> the whole array is hosed now. I've had drives drop out on me before, >>> but never 2 at once. Sigh. >>> >>> I tried to Google a little about dealing with multi-drive failures >>> with mdadm, but I couldn't find much in my initial looking. I'm >>> going to keep digging, but I thought I'd post a question to the >>> group and see what happens. So, is there a way to tell mdadm to >>> "unmark" one of the 2 drives as failed and try to bring up the array >>> again WITHOUT rebuilding it? I really don't think both of the drives >>> failed on me simultaneously and I'd like to try to return 1 of the 2 >>> to the array and test my theory. If I can get the array back up, I >>> can either keep trying to copy data off it or add a new replacement >>> and try to rebuild. I'm pretty novice with mdadm thought I don't see >>> an option that will let me do what I want. Can anyone offer me some >>> advice or point me in the right direction..... or am I just SOL? >>> >>> As a side note, why can't hard drive manufacturers make drives that >>> last anymore? I've had like 5 drives fail on me in the last year... >>> WD, Seagate, Hitachi, they all suck equally! I can't find any that >>> last for any reasonable amount of time, and all the warranties leave >>> you with reman'd drives which fail even more rapidly, some even show >>> up DOA. Plus, I'm not sending my unencrypted data off to some random >>> place! Sorry for venting, just a little ticked off at all of this. >>> Thanks in advance for any help. >>> >>> -Joe >> >> I've had luck in the past recovering from a multi-drive failure, >> where the other failed drive was not truly dead but rather was >> dropped because of an IO error caused by a thermal calibration or >> something similar. The trick is to re-add the drive to the array and >> using the option to force it NOT to try to rebuild the array. This >> used to be an require several options like --really-force and >> --really-dangerous but now I think its just something like --assemble >> --force /dev/md0. This forces the array to come back up to its >> degraded (still down 1 disk) state. If possible replace the degraded >> disk or copy your data off before the other flakey drive fails.