Interesting read.  In 1981 I was certified on doppler traffic radar.  In 1984 I attended a class the verified I was able to verify speed within a reasonable tolerance.  During the time the operators experience was far more important than the radar unit.  The radar unit was a verification. I think there needs to be a class action law suit to take down the traffic radar and to make restitution to those ticketed.  If speeding is an issue bring in the uniforms and the undercover traffic units. Also I'm thinking there must be a 6 or 14 amendment due process violation if you are given a ticket and a collection agency send you a notice to pay up. ------------------------ Keith Smith --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Lisa Kachold wrote: From: Lisa Kachold Subject: OT: HackFest Series - Radar Obedience To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 6:50 PM #yiv1742416264 .hmmessage P { margin:0px;padding:0px;} #yiv1742416264 { font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;} Hacking radar ticketing implemented to increase revenue while combating historical epidemic motor vehicle civil disobedience* in Arizona  Innovative daily notification via Google Maps & offering email notification (from php/javascript site) for all public information locations of cameras in Arizona http://radarrover.com "Build it yourself" GPS Device using Camera Database:  http://hem.bredband.net/b502104/ Cheetah C100 Radar Photo Alert System (Uses the Trinity database): http://www.radarbusters.com/photo-radar/gps-speed-camera-detectors/cheetahc100photocameraalertsystem.cfm Mini-Coyote (Drivers update a database to alert each other): http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/19100/20124/dashboard-gadget-speed-camera-info.phtml Obfuscating License Plate Covers:  http://www.radarbusters.com/photo-radar/license-plate-shields/6524+6528+4293856170.cfm Jammers Overview:  http://www.copradar.com/preview/chapt7/ch7d1.html#detdet Laser Blinding Security Cameras:  http://www.c-h-a-o-s.com/2007/08/11/sniping-the-security/ Ticket Defenses:  http://highwayrobbery.net/ http://photoradarscam.com/getout.php Thin Blue Line:  http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/25/2530.asp  Camera Driver Arrested for DUI Cruise Control:  Arizona cameras start to ticket at 11 miles over the speed limit.  Most cameras are placed in an unexpected speed Zone.  Using cruise control with a combination of GPS Database or RadarRover might be required for the less astute and out of town driver? *http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Literature/Thoreau/CivilDisobedience.html www.Obnosis.com |  http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis |  (503)754-4452 January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. Get your Hotmail® account now. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss