Abolishing the IRS? Sure, that's got to save a mint! While I haven't digested the fair tax initiate, I groan knowing how much American's hate fairness. I also know in a very deep way, that the only real solutions will have to be broad reaching and deep, while American's are incapable of simplistic change, especially where finances are concerned. www.Obnosis.com | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > From: kitepilot@kitepilot.com > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Linux Administration > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:33:15 -0500 > > http://www.fairtax.org/ > ... > > > > Joshua Zeidner writes: > > > The cost of living would be much lower if we weren't taking tax > > money to prop up real estate prices. -jmz > > > > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >> That's enough to feed 4 children and a grandparent in India. Who cares what > >> is in America? > >> > >> www.Obnosis.com | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > >> hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > >> ________________________________ > >> January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department of Economic Security > >> Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > >> Take the Black [Security] Pill & leave IT-Marketing-Matrix, or take the Blue > >> [MS Upgrade] Pill & stay happily ignorant... > >> > >>> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 15:31:55 -0800 > >>> From: eculbert@yahoo.com > >>> Subject: RE: Linux Administration > >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >>> > >>> Yep, and that's $1 below the new minimum wage starting at midnight! > >>> > >>> 73 > >>> > >>> Ed/ke7feg ....Now that November is here, April can wait! > >>> > >>> On 2/23/2007 the morse code requirement was dropped for getting > >>> a ham license. Now just pass the written exams which are on the > >>> web at arrl.org for questions and http://www.kb0mga.net/exams/ > >>> > >>> > >>> --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Jason wrote: > >>> > >>> > From: Jason > >>> > Subject: RE: Linux Administration > >>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > >>> > Cc: klsmith2020@yahoo.com > >>> > Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 1:14 PM > >>> > I want to spend $250/month but I want you *available* 12 > >>> > hours/day? > >>> > Now, I can do it for $250/month retainer, billable hours at > >>> > $50/hour > >>> > with a 1 hour minimum per contact. So, once you have my > >>> > attention for 5 > >>> > hours, you pay more. > >>> > > >>> > That's the way I would run the agreement. > >>> > > >>> > He even states an estimate of 10 hours/week. So, that > >>> > translates to > >>> > $6.25/hour. > >>> > > >>> > Pretty comical. :) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Tue, 2008-12-30 at 04:51 +0000, Lisa Kachold wrote: > >>> > > I worked 60 hours a week at $30,000 in 1995 at an ISP. > >>> > > > >>> > > Working with people who could juggle 20 projects with > >>> > laughing ease, > >>> > > rebuild a 24X7 server and swap IP Addresses, knowing > >>> > how to clear the > >>> > > arp cache on everything (which we, of course had > >>> > access to, > >>> > > controlling all routers, switches and firewalls) > >>> > pretty much ruined > >>> > > me. > >>> > > > >>> > > I also have some contempt for the American who > >>> > egotistically holds > >>> > > down a chair, after working with dull and > >>> > inexperienced, yet extremely > >>> > > motivated Hindis. > >>> > > > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com | > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > >>> > > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy Westphal, AZ Department > >>> > of Economic > >>> > > Security Forensics @ UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ______________________________________________________________________ > >>> > > Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:09:37 -0700 > >>> > > From: mike@garfias.org > >>> > > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com; > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >>> > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration > >>> > > > >>> > > What a dork. And expecting good people for that much? > >>> > Jeez. Maybe if > >>> > > I was a junior guy and needed beer money it might be > >>> > ok, but no > >>> > > thanks. > >>> > > > >>> > > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 6:58 PM, keith smith > >>> > > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > I see this stuff from time to time. He is in > >>> > for a rude > >>> > > awakening since they are asleep while we are > >>> > awake. > >>> > > > >>> > > Funny thing is the phone shops are starting to > >>> > come back to > >>> > > the US. > >>> > > > >>> > > Even though I can hire a PHP programmer for $5 > >>> > - $12 and hour > >>> > > offshore I would never. I've seen their > >>> > work and I'll pass. > >>> > > Not to mention the copyright issues that > >>> > arise. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ------------------------ > >>> > > Keith Smith > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sun, 12/28/08, Lisa Kachold > >>> > > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > From: Lisa Kachold > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > Subject: RE: Linux Administration > >>> > > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com, > >>> > > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >>> > > Date: Sunday, December 28, 2008, 6:25 > >>> > PM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I personally was slightly aghast that > >>> > people were > >>> > > offering to provide offshore based > >>> > linux > >>> > > administration for $250 for a month? > >>> > > > >>> > > Did you see that? > >>> > > > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com | > >>> > > > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > >>> > > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ______________________________________________________ > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy > >>> > Westphal, AZ Department > >>> > > of Economic Security Forensics @ UAT > >>> > 1/10/09 12-3PM > >>> > > Take the Black [Linux BT3] Pill & > >>> > leave > >>> > > SecurityMatrix, or take the Blue > >>> > [XP/Vista Pill] & > >>> > > stay happily ignorant. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ______________________________________________________ > >>> > > Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2008 10:00:32 -0800 > >>> > > From: klsmith2020@yahoo.com > >>> > > Subject: Re: Linux Administration > >>> > > To: > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > I'm not sure what you are trying > >>> > to tell us Lisa. > >>> > > Please be more verbose. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > ------------------------ > >>> > > Keith > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Sat, 12/27/08, Lisa Kachold > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > From: Lisa Kachold > >>> > > >>> > > Subject: Linux Administration > >>> > > To: > >>> > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >>> > > Date: Saturday, December 27, > >>> > 2008, 7:02 PM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > http://www.getafreelancer.com/projects/Linux/Level-System-Admin-for-EST.html > >>> > > > >>> > > www.Obnosis.com | > >>> > > > >>> > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:obnosis | > >>> > hackfest.obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ______________________________________________ > >>> > > January PLUG HackFest = Kristy > >>> > Westphal, AZ > >>> > > Department of Economic > >>> > Security Forensics @ > >>> > > UAT 1/10/09 12-3PM > >>> > > Take the Black [Linux BT3] > >>> > Pill & leave > >>> > > SecurityMatrix, or take the > >>> > Blue [XP/Vista > >>> > > Pill] & stay happily > >>> > ignorant. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > ______________________________________________ > >>> > > Send e-mail faster without > >>> > improving your > >>> > > typing skills. 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