I agree, the poster was a bit more negative than positive in regards to getting his point across. However there were two comments in his thread that would be wonderful for him to take to the Superintendent's office during the conference. Once was the information from the Finland school district that was able to increase their computer to student ratio with only a minimal investment of 42k (Euros for them) reusing old hardware and even expanding the setup to the other local community schools as well. That is just awesome. The second one would be the guy that apparently worked "the other side", and he was right about correcting the poster's judgments of the NEA. I do have to wonder how many of us Linux gurus work for the school systems? How many of us are in positions where we could affect the change, or even prove the change would work? How many of us would take a cut in pay to go do that job? It really is a difficult situation, and I don't forsee any changes coming soon unless there is a sudden change in graduates from CS schools being mostly linux, and not mostly windows founded. In a country in which children's information is held (or is supposed to be held) so secretive, can we really trust a fully FOSS setup, or would it make more sense to have a small set of subprograms that handled such sensitive data not be FOSS? Anyways, great material for discussion, and definitley not OT. Sincerely, Judd Pickell