Sorry If I didn't make it clear: I was not suggesting that IE is a decent browser or that anyone should install it for any other reason that ones similar to what you mention in your first paragraph. Sadly there are quite a few Cisco web-based applications, among a few others, that only work in IE, not to mention sites like MSDN and extra functionality for things like Outlook Web Access. For these rare instances I would rather fire up IE6 in wine rather than boot a VM or keep a spare laptop around just for use IE. -Charles Lisa Kachold wrote: > The only practical uses for IE6 that I have found are testing browser > CSS or Javascript, Extended Validation Certificates, and of course, > email filtering maintenance in Sharepoint and Outlook. > > I haven't found anything that even touches 1/2 of what FireBug, Web > Development, NoScript, Flickr or the other great plugins available for > FireFox 3.0 provides for IE! > > Opera is a nice browser and will work, unlike FireFox 3, with > Silverlight and some of the web site live conferencing sites that are > still broken (ah, I mean "URI secure"). Opera is a fine phone browser > BTW, if you run your own applications on a PDA. > > Firefox 3.0 now protects systems from URI handling exploits (which > allow a computer to be completely taken over via browser in Firefox > 2.0.0.5 and/or Explorer (especially when installed together in a > Microsoft box via "chrome" see http://www.metasploit.com). > > These exploits were especially insidious since they often began > through a simple trip to a website, and are nearly impossible to track > back to the source when XSS proxy exploits are included (which show > only the packet traffic to the Apache system with the XSS holes - like > Google or another famous public site everyone frequents. These > dangerous exploits are still in place [even to the point of allowing > for control of your internal DSL routers - seeing all of your > protected cache, passwords and browser history]) so everyone should > immediately upgrade their older Linux Firefox to 3.0! Generally, all > you would have seen would have been a File Not Found after a pause, as > the nice encrypted tunnel over port 80/443 sets up to announce you > everytime you come online to the attacker irregardless of your DHCP > address. > > Sometimes, it's just easier to buy a nice DHCP key, move off your > files and rebuild under a nice Fedora 9 or Ubuntu - and get all the > newest features as well? > > > http://wapedia.mobi/en/Obnosis || > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obnosis | Obnosis.com (503)754-4452 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:53:33 -0700 > From: charles.jones@ciscolearning.org > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Easy Wine+IE6 setup (was Re: FW: On topic message about Off > topic messages Various Solutions) > > Just thought I would mention that I've found this to be the easiest > way to setup Internet Exploder 6 on linux: > http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Installation > > It has a nice installer that sets it all up for you, including flash9 > plugin, etc. > > -Charles > > Charles Jones wrote: > > Lisa Kachold wrote: > > Charles, how is that notebook wireless connection and Apache2 > VirtuaHost SSL issue I helped you troubleshoot for your home > DSL Name based virtual hosting during the InstallFest? I > believe that was you? That was a really fun day? > > That wasn't me, but it sounds like it was indeed fun :-) > > > Join us for the Next PLUG Linux Security HackFest LAB at UAT > on September 11, 2008 Noon! > > Solutions for Filtering Messages either into Trash, Folder > and/or Email forwarding: > > Thanks for the tips...I may switch to using server-side filtering > instead of making Thunderbird do it :) > > -Charles > >