Couldn't you have been just a little pigheaded? I was looking forward to a good tussle. Ruin my fun. :p On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Erich Newell > wrote: > > Part 1: > > Ok. I just took the time to go back and re-read the entire thread. I > > don't understand what anyone is irritated / hurt / angry / annoyed at. > > Someone please explain to me. > > Erich, > > Im certainly not irritated, but I got the clear indication that I am > being blamed for being 'confrontational'. Remember, I did not even > instigate that argument! > > > > > Part 2: > > Joshua - Just to stoke the fire a little....Did it occur to you that > > maybe the creator of the app (not to speak on your behalf Kristian) may > not > > care about the legality of his use and may even be civilly disobedient > > intentionally? > > Perhaps, but as I noted the latter part of my argument had nothing > to do with the author of the app. It had to do with a statement > concerning the legality of data scraping, that was not only highly > misleading, but had zero references. Misleading the readers of this > list in such a way could even lead to legal problems for them. That > was the motive to my argument. If there is some crime in that, I must > be have some kind of alien ethos that is totally incompatible with > Joseph or Kevin. > > If the goal here is civil disobedience, more power to him! But I > think it was made clear that the understanding of the rules being > broken was minimal to start. Lets not confuse Civil Disobedience with > lack of civilization ;) . > > honestly I don't think the real problem here is one or two people > ruining the list for others, I think its about the unwillingness to > accept change. If one particular person is annoying you, its very > easy to fix the problem without having to unsubscribe. PLUG is a > great group and has a long history, and I applaud each and member of > it for everything they put in. Although perhaps Darrin doesn't think > I give him enough respect, I do follow his comments here (or did) and > I do recognize his thorough knowledge of BSD. And just remember, if > PLUG does not embrace action and change, its going to stagnate and > die. > > sincerely, > > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- "A man is defined by the questions that he asks; and the way he goes about finding the answers to those questions is the way he goes through life."