Sound like you need to write a how-to. Interesting stuff.... What I learn on PLUG. eculbert wrote: Careful using hot water, that vitreous toilet MIGHT crack from rapid heating/cooling. The casting is vitreous and could heat uneven. That is the reason stoneware cannot be used on the range top, but can survive in the oven...... EVEN heating/cooling. Go to ACE/etc and get a good plunger..a large red rubber one. Works wonders at start of slow plumbing. Like I told you privately, even this 50 plus y/o apartment can start to plug, and a quick use of the 'red hat' seems to keep it flowing downward. Don't let them sell you fancy ones...they work, but cost more and not that much better either if any. I flush with the plunger blocking the toilet till it is almost over flowing then gently pull up and jam that down once it starts 'doing the slow drain' thing. Then since it isn't almost overflowing now, I yank upward about 4 or 5 inches only to back suck on the obstruction. Only yank back/upward the amount the down stroke used otherwise it is mop time and possibly bath time!!! Practice makes perfect on the yank, hihi. One other piece of experience. When using the plunger to block the hole and fill the bowl once it is full, let the tank fill up to full again before working on the blockage. That way, once it starts going, you can back up the 'newly opened up' drain with immediate second flush! Have the tank lid off in case you need to seat the flapper in a hurry when doing that. Experience again on that one. --- Michael Havens wrote: > thanks for all the help guys. it is fixed. it was > done by boiling water and > pouring it in..... my wife also got drano.... I > think it was a little of > both. again, I thank you for your help! > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > Ed/ke7feg Did I mention, 2/23/07 the FCC dropped all cw (ADA Morse code) testing for any class of license as a ham? Just pass the written and "U's a ham"!! Many sites test online, but you have to go for the real test. $14 for as high as you can climb in one session. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ------------------------ Keith Smith (480) 584-4772 PHP Programming --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.