On 8/27/07, Scottsdale Arizona Web Design < plug@scottsdalearizonawebdesign.com> wrote: > > Jason Ho-Ching > Owner of several companies and sites including: > echazen.com > scottsdale arizona web design > zencart masters > askamormon.com > wearesamoa.com > 480.355.1434 > > For the record, I used to post on the utah plug list at www.plug.org. > Every post there is highly visible on the search engines. Google my name > and you'll see a plug post on the first page. I have had job postings there > get put on google that discussed projects and what I am paying to my > programmers. This is the type of information I don't want my clients to > see. We bill our clients at $85/hr and I don't want clients to see that we > pay some programmers only $40/hr and what not. > > This is why I didn't want all my personal info to be posted here because I > assumed it would be as public as the plug.org postings from utah. > > I hope this clears up any confusion. I have posted my name and number at > the top. I might as well tell you what we're offering to pay, too, since > everything is now on the table. We are looking to pay between $40/hr and > $75/hr. Software engineers will make closer to $75/hr. These are top-level > developers only. The owner of the company in utah will be interviewing the > candidates to filter out the more inexperienced developers. I have already > had a very, very, very bad experience with a programmer on this board. > Who would that be? -jmz I was misled by this person and that is why I am not doing the > interviewing myself. > > Please email me if you are interested. I am not going to give any more > information about the position on the plug list here but will reserve this > information for serious inquiries only. > > Thank you. > > ================================================================== > > > Josh Coffman wrote: > > I'm sure the rest of the group would agree with me, and I appreciate the > job posting on this list. > It would be courteous of you to include your name and company in the > signature when you post. > > Regards > -j > > On 8/24/07, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > > > > Ok, I know who this is, I am not necessarily trying to put you down. > > > > I think that you owe this community some kind of tangible identity if > > you are claiming to be presenting a job opportunity. You have posted here > > before, and I have my opinions as to what the issues are, but I think the > > community here has the right to at least a consistent and regular identity. > > I don't think you risk any serious SEO problems. > > > > -jmz > > > > > > > > On 8/24/07, Scottsdale Arizona Web Design > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't understand what the issue is here. We aren't hiding > > > anything. Scottsdale Arizona Web Design is owned by eChazen.com. We > > > created that site for search engine optimization purposes and will launch a > > > new site for it. It was purchased a long time ago and only now are we > > > seriously considering launching it. > > > > > > I didn't post under that name because of search engine reasons. I > > > don't want plug list to come up when someone searches the web for > > > eChazen.com. I only want our clients' sites and our own site to turn > > > up as results. Scottsdale Arizona Web Design is a competitive key term and > > > plug list messages shouldn't show up. > > > > > > If you are interested, please email us at: > > > > > > plug@scottsdalearizonawebdesign.com > > > > > > If not, that's fine. > > > > > > Randy Melder wrote: > > > > > > Whois Server Version 2.0 > > > > > > Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered > > > with many different competing registrars. Go to > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.internic.net > > > for detailed information. > > > > > > > > > Domain Name: SCOTTSDALEARIZONAWEBDESIGN.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC. > > > Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com > > > > > > Referral URL: > > > http://www.wildwestdomains.com > > > Name Server: > > > > > > > > > NS1.ECHAZEN.NET > > > Name Server: NS2.ECHAZEN.NET > > > Status: clientDeleteProhibited > > > Status: clientRenewProhibited > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: clientTransferProhibited > > > Status: clientUpdateProhibited > > > Updated Date: 17-jul-2007 > > > Creation Date: 17-jul-2005 > > > Expiration Date: 17-jul-2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > Last update of whois database: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:25:34 UTC <<< > > > > > > NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the > > > registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is > > > currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring > > > registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to > > > view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois > > > database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and > > > automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry > > > Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for > > > information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not > > > guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide > > > by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data > > > to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass > > > unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes > > > that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation, > > > repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly > > > > > > > > > > > > prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to > > > > > > use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or > > > query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register > > > > > > > > > > > > domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right > > > > > > to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure > > > operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the > > > > > > > > > > > > Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign > > > > > > reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. > > > > > > The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and > > > Registrars. > > > > > > > > > > > > The data contained in this Registrar's Whois database, > > > while believed by the registrar to be reliable, is provided "as is" > > > > > > with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information > > > > > > > > > > > > is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining > > > information about domain name registration records. Any use of > > > this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without > > > > > > the prior written permission of this registrar. By submitting an > > > > > > > > > > > > inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. > > > In particular, you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or > > > otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this data, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the transmission of > > > unsolicited advertising and solicitations of any kind, including spam. > > > You further agree not to use this data to enable high volume, automated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or compile this data > > > for any purpose, including mining this data for your own personal or > > > commercial purposes. > > > > > > Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "registrant" field. > > > In most cases, the Registrar is not the owner of domain names listed > > > in this database. > > > > > > > > > Registrant: > > > eChazen Internet Solutions > > > 7040 E. Kessler Ave > > > > > > Mesa, Arizona 85208 > > > > > > > > > > > > United States > > > > > > Registered through: eChazen.com > > > Domain Name: > > > SCOTTSDALEARIZONAWEBDESIGN.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > Created on: 17-Jul-05 > > > Expires on: 17-Jul-08 > > > Last Updated on: 17-Jul-07 > > > > > > Administrative Contact: > > > Internet Solutions, eChazen > > > > > > > > > contact@echazen.com > > > 7040 E. Kessler Ave > > > Mesa, Arizona 85208 > > > United States > > > (480) 452-8560 Fax -- > > > > > > Technical Contact: > > > Internet Solutions, eChazen > > > > > > > > > contact@echazen.com > > > 7040 E. Kessler Ave > > > Mesa, Arizona 85208 > > > United States > > > (480) 452-8560 Fax -- > > > > > > Domain servers in listed order: > > > > > > > > > > > > NS1.ECHAZEN.NET > > > NS2.ECHAZEN.NET > > > > > > > > > Whois Server Version 2.0 > > > > > > Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered > > > > > > > > > > > > with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net > > > for detailed information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Domain Name: ECHAZEN.COM > > > Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC. > > > Whois Server: > > > > > > > > > whois.wildwestdomains.com > > > Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com > > > Name Server: > > > > > > NS1.ECHAZEN.COM > > > Name Server: NS2.ECHAZEN.COM > > > Status: clientDeleteProhibited > > > Status: clientRenewProhibited > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: clientTransferProhibited > > > Status: clientUpdateProhibited > > > Updated Date: 08-jun-2006 > > > Creation Date: 04-nov-2002 > > > Expiration Date: 04-nov-2007 > > > > > > > > > > > > Last update of whois database: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:25:49 UTC <<< > > > > > > NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the > > > registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is > > > currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring > > > registrar. Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to > > > view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TERMS OF USE: You are not authorized to access or query our Whois > > > database through the use of electronic processes that are high-volume and > > > automated except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modify existing registrations; the Data in VeriSign Global Registry > > > Services' ("VeriSign") Whois database is provided by VeriSign for > > > information purposes only, and to assist persons in obtaining information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about or related to a domain name registration record. VeriSign does not > > > guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a Whois query, you agree to abide > > > by the following terms of use: You agree that you may use this Data only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for lawful purposes and that under no circumstances will you use this Data > > > to: (1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass > > > unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail, telephone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or facsimile; or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes > > > that apply to VeriSign (or its computer systems). The compilation, > > > repackaging, dissemination or other use of this Data is expressly > > > > > > > > > > > > prohibited without the prior written consent of VeriSign. You agree not to > > > > > > use electronic processes that are automated and high-volume to access or > > > query the Whois database except as reasonably necessary to register > > > > > > > > > > > > domain names or modify existing registrations. VeriSign reserves the right > > > > > > to restrict your access to the Whois database in its sole discretion to ensure > > > operational stability. VeriSign may restrict or terminate your access to the > > > > > > > > > > > > Whois database for failure to abide by these terms of use. VeriSign > > > > > > reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. > > > > > > The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and > > > Registrars. > > > > > > > > > > > > The data contained in this Registrar's Whois database, > > > while believed by the registrar to be reliable, is provided "as is" > > > > > > with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information > > > > > > > > > > > > is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining > > > information about domain name registration records. Any use of > > > this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without > > > > > > the prior written permission of this registrar. By submitting an > > > > > > > > > > > > inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. > > > In particular, you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or > > > otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this data, in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the transmission of > > > unsolicited advertising and solicitations of any kind, including spam. > > > You further agree not to use this data to enable high volume, automated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or compile this data > > > for any purpose, including mining this data for your own personal or > > > commercial purposes. > > > > > > Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "registrant" field. > > > In most cases, the Registrar is not the owner of domain names listed > > > in this database. > > > > > > > > > Registrant: > > > echazen > > > 7040 E. Kessler > > > Mesa, Arizona 85208 > > > > > > > > > United States > > > > > > > > > > > > Registered through: eChazen.com > > > Domain Name: ECHAZEN.COM > > > Created on: 04-Nov-02 > > > > > > Expires on: 04-Nov-07 > > > > > > > > > Last Updated on: 08-Jun-06 > > > > > > Administrative Contact: > > > Ho-Ching, Jason > > > hochingj@yahoo.com > > > > > > Jet Designs > > > 11082 S. Conestoga Dr. > > > Spanish Fork, Utah 84660 > > > United States > > > (801) 873-3220 Fax -- > > > > > > Technical Contact: > > > Ho-Ching, Jason > > > > > > hochingj@yahoo.com > > > Jet Designs > > > 11082 S. Conestoga Dr. > > > Spanish Fork, Utah 84660 > > > United States > > > (801) 873-3220 Fax -- > > > > > > Domain servers in listed order: > > > > > > > > > NS2.ECHAZEN.COM > > > > > > > > > NS1.ECHAZEN.COM > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/07, Joshua Zeidner > > > wrote: > > > > > > I have a feeling I know who this is... > > > > > > How about a company name, link to a web site? > > > > > > -jmz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/24/07, Scottsdale Arizona Web Design > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > We are looking for two types of resources: > > > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > > > > > Freelancer or freelance team > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > > > > > We currently use two programmers that are out of state. They constantly > > > > > > disappear or do not answer the phone for several days at a time. Then they > > > will resurface again. We need to work with a highly-skilled and > > > highly-efficient local developer or team. > > > > > > We are very happy with the skill level of the two programmers we have, but > > > > > > it's reliability that's the issue here. > > > > > > We develop using the LAMP stack and sometimes need ASP.net work but will > > > > > > not require it. > > > > > > We need a team or a developer that has EXTENSIVE programming experience > > > > > > and conforms to coding standards. > > > > > > Candidate must be local. Would be nice if he/she/they were located in the > > > > > > east mesa/gilbert area. > > > > > > Please contact me with your experience and rates or just send a resume. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > > > > > In-house contract developer for 40-50 hours a week > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > > > > > We are looking at the possibility of partnering with a utah development > > > > > > company in bringing on two "full-time" developers. You would be classed as > > > contract workers, but you will be required to work at least 40 hours a week > > > in our offices in east mesa. 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