Thanks Josef, I think you are hitting it on the head. I looked at the details for come of BOTH my original (conversation starting) messages and some of my replies within conversations. ALL of them show being sent by gmail.com from me to the discussion list and list no separate reply to. All emails from other folks show as being from those individuals to the discussion list but with a reply to of the discussion list. They do not mention a mailed by like gmail.com. NTL, since my originating mails do not show up UNTIL there has been a reply by someone on the list, gmail must be hiding it until that event happens and if it never does, my originating seems never to have gone yo the list though the list echoed it out to participants (including me I presume). To me this smacks of Micro$ Bill's attitude that he should be the decider of what behaviours should be silently imposed on the world. I used to have high hopes for Google avoiding that kind of evilness and they are fading. Enough of this. Now that I think I understand what is happening, I have better things to spend my time on. On 6/13/07, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > > That is normal GMail behaviour. GMail stores your email ONLY in the > "Sent" view unless or until it's part of a thread with other messages you > didn't send. Even then sometimes your latest email in a thread won't show > up anywhere but the "Sent" view. > I don't know if it filters a PLUG list response, sees it's a sent-to-self, > and hides it or the PLUG list isn't echoing for you, either could explain > the observed behavior. Perhaps if you viewed the details of the message > that "showed up" after you got a reply you could see if it was your original > or the List echo. > > Dazed_75 wrote: > > Thank you Shane. Both my original message from yesterday and your reply > > showed up today at 5:40 pm demonstrating again that when I send a new > > message (not a reply) to the discussion-list, it NEVER shows up for me > > until > > (and unless) someone replies to it. > > > > On 6/13/07, Shane Lofgren wrote: > >> > >> test > >> > >> On 6/12/07, Dazed_75 wrote: > >> > > >> > This is a test of an option for the discuss-list. The test will be > >> > useless af anyone replies to it before Friday 6/15 > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't > >> > matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss