Ok, I am looking to set up Samba Shadow Copy, which, I believe, requires LVM style snapshots. However when I am looking to set up snapshots it seems that if I want three snap shots of a 10GB partition I need a 30 GB partition to hold it. Is their no more elegant way? For example if file X never changes why would I need four copies of X (Original + three snapshots)? What I want is something that looks at folder AI and sees files X, Y, Z, & W, then at the next timed interval sees that Y has changed (We will call it Y1) so now instead of making another copy of X, Y, Z, & W it adds Y1 to the back up of folder AI with a time stamp. If I have to make three full copies for three full restore points I think I would rather just dump my rsynch off sight back ups across the net four times a day, or at least make a local rsynch backup. But alas, that defeats the purpose as I can not find any way to integrate rsynch with Samba Shadow Copy. I have also looked at Samba Recycler, but can not find anyone who can tell me how it integrates with windows. Thoughts? Bryan O'Neal Cornerstone Homes & Development, Inc. 4220 E. McDowell Rd Ste. #108 Mesa, AZ 85215 (480) 505-1900