On 4/19/07, Alan Dayley <alandd@consultpros.com> wrote:
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> Dazed_75 wrote:
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> > Alan,
> > Would you mind sending me some information?  Specifically, the BCD info
> > from Vista and the grub menu info from your /boot/grub/menu.lst.  For
> > Vista, open a command window as administrator and type bcdedit /enum >
> > /anypath/bcdenum.txt (or leave off the redirect if you know how to
> > copy/paste from a command window in Vista).
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> You are going to make me boot Vista for the fourth time since I got this
> thing!  ;^)  It's about time anyway to let it do whatever security
> updates since the last time I booted it.
>
> I'll do that later today.
>
> > I am finding more info on the web about the Vista changes so am
> > interested in what Novell did.  For example
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529 shows the same stuff where
> > someone installs XP after Vista.
>
> I read some of that article and am also curious.  I'm less curious about
> why MS changed things since there can be many reasonable engineering
> explanations.  I'm more curious if OpenSUSE "knows" something via Novell
> that other distros do not.
>
> I'll make up a data package to send with the information you ask.  If
> you recall, GRUB is my main boot loader and provides me with the choice
> between Vista and OpenSUSE.  If I save off my MBR with dd, would that be
> any help?
>
> Alan
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> I'm more curious if OpenSUSE "knows" something via
> Novell that other distros do not.

Naaah, if "you know who" were intentionally trying to be sneaky,
then why would they put some smarts in OpenSUSE where
it would be available in OSS form, out in the "Open",
for anyone to see?
more likely, they'd be tempted to put some kind of
pitfall in their own [closed-source] code, saying something like:

"if" ("other" OS that wants to share hda space with a
$ms OS) is one that satisfies some condition (e.g.,
it is from a publisher that has some kind of reciprocal
deal with $ms, intended to weaken any comptetition
against $Win, even if only via FUD, etc.),
"then"
allow stuff that is much more convenient for the user,
and doesn't require going through all of the rigamarole
that 'lthielster' has carefully documented in this article;
(maybe some "subset" of it?);
"else"
((permission to treat . . . as a hostile witness,
 your honor?)
 (As Johnny Carson used to say,
  > frigate, ...torque!))
do stuff like << "Vista requires its own MBR be
present", etc. >>, in an effort to make life hell
for anyone who dares to use [e.g.] Gnu/Linux -
or, any distro that Bill does not like.
That is, any OS that does not require one to
give up much of the control over what gets
done, and how, in the software on his/her PC.
-- 
Mike Schwartz
Glendale  AZ
schwartz@acm.org
Mike.L.Schwartz@gmail.com