Ok, so I set it all up, but there were no graphs, so I read the docs and tested by executing poller.php manual, at which point the rra data appeared and I had graphs, but no data on those graphs. I reset the permissions on the .rrd files to cacti/cacti 664 but still nothing. I checked cron and it had a cacti file in cron.d with the line #*/5 * * * * cacti /usr/bin/php /usr/share/cacti/poller.php > /dev/null 2>&1 And if I execute /usr/bin/php /usr/share/cacti/poller.php directly it does work to refresh the data in /usr/share/cacti/rra/ but I am not sure what > dev/null 2>&1 is doing. If I execute poller with that on the end it does not seem to do anything. And still no graph data. I am using cacti 0.8.6i with php 5.1.6 and snmp V1 to get data and if I run 'snmpget -v 1 -c public 192.168.2.50 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.10.51' from the command line I get counter data. Any thoughts? Bryan O'Neal Cornerstone Homes & Development, Inc. 4220 E. McDowell Rd Ste. #108 Mesa, AZ 85215 (480) 505-1900