Note:  I do not aim to take anything away from PLUG.  A LoCo group is a
specific thing that may or may not fit well with the operations and views
harbored at PLUG.  I do not want to impose unpredictable effects on PLUG at
this time.  In summary I do not suggest that PLUG and Arizona LoCo are
mutually exclusive, but I also do not imply that they are mutually
interchangeable.

 In a general note, I regard PLUG as the best technical group in the
Valley.  I have had minimal interactions with Hans and Alan and they have
extended a measure of generosity to me in hosting a presentation and
responding to questions in a forthright manner.  Hans and Alan have been
great.  Thanks!

 -jmz


On 9/25/06, Eric Shubes <plug@shubes.net> wrote:
>
>
> Josh Coffman wrote:
> >
> > --- Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/25/06, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> >>> Am 24. Sep, 2006 schwätzte Joshua Zeidner so:
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks.  Ill go ahead and drive this one home if
> >> there is no particular
> >>>> opposition to my doing so.  The Ubuntu LoCo
> >> groups are taken fairly
> >>>> seriously and there is a level of formality that
> >> may be a bit alien to
> >>> most
> >>>> Linux folks.
> >>> Is there a reason PLUG can't be the LoCo group?
> >>
> >>
> >>   No reason other than my feeling that PLUG should
> >> not favor any one distro
> >> over another.
> >
> >
> > I feel the same. PLUG as it is has been very helpful
> > to me personally, and I assume many others.
> >
> > Also, I wouldn't want side groups to detract from PLUG
> > either. Most of us have limited time, and committing
> > time to something usually means less time for
> > something else.
> >
> > However, people who are passionate about something and
> > are so inclined should follow their heart. If that
> > means starting a local Ubuntu group, then do it.
> >
> > If we're voting, I vote PLUG remain as it is: A
> > distro-agnotistic and friendly group for occasionally
> > linux-relevant discussion. :)
> >
> >
> I agree that PLUG should not *favor* a particular distribution. At the
> same
> time, I don't see why PLUG couldn't be the LoCo group without *becoming*
> (solely) the LoCo group. The LoCo group would exist as a sort of subset of
> PLUG. Then again, if the LoCo group needs to formally exist, it can't be a
> part of PLUG because, as we all (should) know, PLUG doesn't actually
> exist. ;)
> --
> -Eric 'shubes'
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