With all the talk about Ubuntu and needing to setup two boxes one with an X interface and one just a plain server (LAMP). They both will be used mostly at this time for PHP/MySql development. Neither will serve to the Internet just local. They are both turn of the century technology (Year 2000) both AMD500 1 has CD writer/floppy/100MB zip, replaceable 20gig hd's, and 256MB mem the other has 128MB mem, CD, floppy, fix 14GB HD. I read someplace that the graphical user interface install requires 192MB RAM. However from the talk here I take it there is a text based installer also. Here are my questions: 1) If a Debian derivative (which I like because of apt-get) does the current real or imagined troubles at Debian _Really_ affect Ubuntu? 2) With older hardware does anyone see a problem? Thanks in advance for your feedback, Keith - - - - - - - Keith Smith - - - - - - - http://travelingcheese.com/search_engine/increase-search-engine-traffic.html - - - - - - - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.