It's possible to get qwest DSL without Qwest phone line. This service is called naked DSL from most providers that support it(qwest, bellsouth i think). I have had naked DSL with Qwest in New Mexico, but was using "Qwest.net" ISP service, instead of the MSN junk. You will have to call multiple times, and speak with many people to get this service, as it seems customer support is either told not to offer as it takes a cut from their MSN service, or maybe their CS could care less...havent figured that one out yet. So, it is possible to run Qwest DSL without a Qwest phone line, and without MSN(if thats your purpose), but it can be a real pain to get someone in Sales or CS that is familiar with the plan. Be prepared for some frustration. Daniel Parraz "der.hans" wrote: Am 09. Aug, 2006 schwätzte tg so: > I have a question about Deru in general. You will also need a Qwest > Telephone line or for what I have to pay the Qwest Fee? Is the Deru ISP You need a line from Qwest ( I think there are one or two places in the Valley where you can get a line from someone other than Qwest, but mostly it's Qwest ). You will have to pay Qwest monthly for that line. > service based on / dependent on Qwest or can I choose another phone company, > too. What are your recommendations? Any bad experiences with Qwest? Like Deutsche Telekom, if you've used Qwest, you've had bad experiences with Qwest. > My understanding of high speed DSL is that you have one telephone > connection. Is this right? So when you are online you cannot make or receive > phone calls!? Is there a possibility to make phone calls (no voip!) and > internet surfing simultaneously? The DSL and telephone can run at the same time. The DSL connection comes with some filters that will filter out the DSL noise. It works quite well. There are off and on rumors of ways to only pay for a DSL connection and not pay Qwest for a phone line. I'm not sure how to do that. Qwest has told me that such a thing is possible, but I've heard several people say Qwest won't let them do it, even if it is possible. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ # Join the League of Professional System Administrators! https://LOPSA.org/ # A t-shirt a day keeps the noose away. - der.hans--------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.