In a message dated 5/4/2006 10:40:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time, plug-discuss@firstpacket.com writes: Any other suggestions? Or, maybe mini-ITX is the way to go and you can suggest a cost-effective wholesaler or something? Mini-ITX tends to be a premium-priced thing because it's cute and all-inclusive. Why not get a bargain-basement Sempron on a regular micro- or full-ATX mobo. I'd think an ideal solution would be some old Socket 370 slow Celerons. You can slap beefy Socket A heatsinks on and run them fanless for reliability.