For what it's worth, I am one of the "toilet paper must feed from the front" people, and I use gmail and have no issue with top or bottom posting as the interface hides everything not new... When I get enough time, I'll go read the RFC(s) on top/bottom posting. I'm sure it'll be some interesting reading. -Erik On 10/26/05, Dan Lund wrote: > > I figure it this way, someone can either read it or not read it.. top > post or not. > It's not a big deal either way, it's kind of like the toilet paper > going in front or behind the roll.... > > The people that make a big deal about it are the same people who make > a big deal about the toilet paper ;) > > --Dan > > On 10/26/05, ec wrote: > > AGREED!!!! The worst is the split postings in LONG > > messages when done without some //////////////// > > splitter/wake-up flags!! You tend to fly by those and > > then have to search for them...very frustrating. I > > have been known to just 'to heck with it' and go to > > another RE: > > > > --- Mark Jarvis > > wrote: > > > > > > > > That's why I like it. Scrolling down thru 5 (or even > > > 2) screens to find > > > a one liner reply is not my idea of fun. > > > > > > -mj- > > > > > > Major.Mikey wrote: > > > > > > > .... that way if you need to be reminded of the > > > conversation THEN you scroll > > > > down instead of having to scroll down to read the > > > persons the meat of the > > > > person's message (which can be ONE sentence). (or > > > even one or two words) > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 25 October 2005 07:46 pm, Craig White > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>continuing top posting... > > > >> > > > >>No the CD is just a CD and imparts nothing of > > > legal usage - the EULA > > > >>specifically makes mention of the 'certificate of > > > authenticity' not the > > > >>CD and the certificate of authenticity is where > > > the install codes should > > > >>be. Just trying to point out what apparently is an > > > attempt to justify > > > >>what you are doing nor does their familiarity with > > > 'that era' or whether > > > >>they have the $$ justify it. If the system were > > > purchased from a normal > > > >>vendor, the install codes for that machine would > > > be on the certificate > > > >>affixed to the computer itself. > > > >> > > > >>Craig > > > >> > > > >>On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 19:09 -0700, Mark Jarvis > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>>Well, the CD is not illegal--it's a real MS > > > CD--it's just crippled > > > >>>because it lost its little piece of paper with > > > the Product Code on it. I > > > >>>simply wanted a way to make a legal copy run. In > > > addition, until the HD > > > >>>died, the machine had a legal copy of Win98 on > > > it. There are lots of > > > >>>Registry hacks for getting the Product Code out > > > of a RUNNING machine, > > > >>>but I haven't found one that works well with a > > > dead HD. The person > > > >>>involved is used to that era Windows & doesn't > > > have $$ for a legal copy > > > >>>of XP--which I agree would be MUCH better. > > > >>> > > > >>>The OO reference was a joking attempt to pretend > > > to make a Win post to a > > > >>>Linux list "legal". > > > >>> > > > >>>-mj- > > > >>> > > > >>>Craig White wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>>On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 17:48 -0700, Mark Jarvis > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>>To make a long story short, I need to install > > > Win98 on a newly > > > >>>>>formatted disk in a friend's machine. I have a > > > Win98 CD, but the paper > > > >>>>>with the the Product Code is long gone. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>1) Does anyone know of a program to extract the > > > Product code from the > > > >>>>>CD? -or- > > > >>>>>2) Want to suggest a better forum for asking > > > this question? (I don't > > > >>>>>know the Windoze forums & mailists.) > > > >>>>> -or- > > > >>>>>3) From what I've found on the 'Net, there are > > > generic codes out there > > > >>>>>that will work. Also, one person said that he > > > got a list of codes from > > > >>>>>a friend and got a hit on the 9th one. (I've > > > tried 3 so far--struck > > > >>>>>out.) If someone has one or some I can try, I'd > > > appreciate getting > > > >>>>>them. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Although I don't dare expose this person to > > > Linux, I WILL be installing > > > >>>>>Open Office 2--not a complete loss. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions, > > > >>>> > > > >>>>---- > > > >>>>There is no way to legally install using that CD > > > since what is legally > > > >>>>required is the genuine Microsoft Windows > > > certificate which accompanied > > > >>>>the CD - which would have the installation code. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Moreover, since Windows 98 is a 'dead os' - you > > > aren't doing this > > > >>>>person a favor by installing it. If they wish to > > > run Windows, they > > > >>>>should be purchasing WinXP - it runs much better > > > and has life beyond > > > >>>>yesterday. There's no reason to encourage > > > someone to run an illegal > > > >>>>copy of Windows when you can run Linux for free > > > legally. Tossing in a > > > >>>>free Oo doesn't make it less than a complete > > > loss. > > > >>>> > > > >>>>Craig > > > >>> > > > > > >>>--------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > >>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > > settings: > > > > > >>>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > > settings: > > > > > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > > settings: > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > Cyclists should expect and demand safe > > accommodation on our public roads, > > just as does every other user. > > > > Nothing more is expected. > > > > Nothing less is acceptable! > > > > Long live Knoppix!! > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Yahoo! 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