Great Idea: We (Thomson/West, purveyors of Westlaw) can offer five Dell Optiplex GX1 computers + IBM 17" monitor. These are something like 500MHz P2 boxen. CD and floppy (no CD writer). I don't have the tech chops to do much more than deliver the hardware, etc, but I'm willing to do what I can. I think this is a tremendous idea. Let me know if / how you want me to proceed. These boxen are downtown (Copper Square). Craig (the "other" Craig) On 9/6/05, plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us < plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us> wrote: > > Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-owner@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RedSeven new store party (ec) > 2. Re: RedSeven new store party (Craig White) > 3. Re: RedSeven new store party (ec) > 4. Re: Need Linux digital camera advice (ec) > 5. Re: RedSeven new store party (Craig White) > 6. RE: RedSeven new store party (Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.) > 7. Where to report abuse (Carl Parrish) > 8. Re: Where to report abuse (Ed Skinner) > 9. Re: Where to report abuse (Sean Horan) > 10. NO evacuee help (der.hans) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 07:31:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: ec > Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <20050906143127.70687.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their > 'better' ideas! I cannot read it till I highlight it > or copy/paste to kwrite!! > > Hope they read this!! > > --- "der.hans" wrote: > > > moin, moin, > > > > Red Seven is opening a new location downtown. > > > > They're hosting a grand opening party this > > Wednesday. > > > > http://www.RedSevenLinux.com/news.php?id=12 > > > > Does that come up in a hard to read light grey for > > everybody else? > > > > ciao, > > > > der.hans > > -- > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ > > # When I work, I work hard. When I play, I play > > hard. > > # When I sit, I sleep. - Embe Kugler > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > Cyclists should expect and demand safe > accommodation on our public roads, > just as does every other user. > > Nothing more is expected. > > Nothing less is acceptable! > > Long live Knoppix!! > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 07:49:46 -0700 > From: Craig White > Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <1126018186.8235.32.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 07:31 -0700, ec wrote: > > Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their > > 'better' ideas! I cannot read it till I highlight it > > or copy/paste to kwrite!! > > > > Hope they read this!! > > > ---- > Downtown Phoenix Store - September 7th > > Big News! RedSeven is opening another location right in Downtown > Phoenix's CopperSquare. Please join us for the Grand Opening Party on > September 7th from 4pm - 7pm. > > 23 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003 (SW Central & Jefferson). *FYI: > Parking Meters in Downtown Phoenix are FREE after 5pm. > > if this helps... > > Craig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:03:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: ec > Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <20050906150332.79885.qmail@web51702.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > I loose respect for ANY, ah, id**t that makes it hard > to read, either dark on dark or light on light > text/whatever. > > There is NO excuse to make people jump thru hoops to > read the text. Nor view the page.....PERIOD END!! > > --- Craig White wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 07:31 -0700, ec wrote: > > > Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their > > > 'better' ideas! I cannot read it till I highlight > > it > > > or copy/paste to kwrite!! > > > > > > Hope they read this!! > > > > > ---- > > Downtown Phoenix Store - September 7th > > > > Big News! RedSeven is opening another location right > > in Downtown > > Phoenix's CopperSquare. Please join us for the Grand > > Opening Party on > > September 7th from 4pm - 7pm. > > > > 23 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003 (SW Central & > > Jefferson). *FYI: > > Parking Meters in Downtown Phoenix are FREE after > > 5pm. > > > > if this helps... > > > > Craig > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > Cyclists should expect and demand safe > accommodation on our public roads, > just as does every other user. > > Nothing more is expected. > > Nothing less is acceptable! > > Long live Knoppix!! > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 08:12:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: ec > Subject: Re: Need Linux digital camera advice > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <20050906151201.15216.qmail@web51705.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Siri, in my limited experience with linux and usb > cameras, I have found that some of the newer versions > of linux 'leave behind' the drivers for older > technology camera's. Ex: I, not being into camera's > much, had a JamCam kids $30 camera w/usb. Knoppix > supports it in Knoppix 3.2 and I think 3.3, but not in > later versions. Luckily I didn't toss the 3.2 cdrom. > > So make sure the camera works with the version you are > using, and IF you pay much for the camera, KEEP the > cdrom's just incase you have to re-install the > software to get the camera to work!! Or the drivers > are not available except on that install or Live cd. > > Just my two cents worth. > > --- Siri Amrit Kaur wrote: > > > I'm wanting to get a digital camera. I don't know > > anything about > > digital cameras or how to get them to work in Linux. > > I've never > > attached a USB device of any kind to my computer, > > I'm that far behind > > the times. My son has an Olympus Camedia C-50 and it > > takes great > > pictures. I've searched, but can't tell if it's > > supported in Linux. > > > > From what I've been reading, what I really need is a > > flash reader > > that's supported in Linux- the camera model doesn't > > matter so much. > > Do y'all agree? If so, what do I need to know about > > flash readers- or > > anything else camera-related- before I buy one? > > > > Thanks for any advice you can give me. > > > > Siri Amrit > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > Cyclists should expect and demand safe > accommodation on our public roads, > just as does every other user. > > Nothing more is expected. > > Nothing less is acceptable! > > Long live Knoppix!! > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:16:11 -0700 > From: Craig White > Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <1126019771.8235.35.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 08:03 -0700, ec wrote: > > I loose respect for ANY, ah, id**t that makes it hard > > to read, either dark on dark or light on light > > text/whatever. > > > > There is NO excuse to make people jump thru hoops to > > read the text. Nor view the page.....PERIOD END!! > > > ---- > too much drama > > someone who created the web page thought it worked for him. Simply tell > the webmaster that it doesn't work for you. > > No reason to get all worked up. > > Craig > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:33:59 -0700 > From: "Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr." > Subject: RE: RedSeven new store party > To: "'Main PLUG discussion list'" > > Message-ID: <200509061038406.SM01092@D600GILBERT> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It is interesting to see someone first, resort to name calling, and > second, > be so hard line. > > People need to have respect for others and their ideas. Name calling is > not > respect. > > Gilbert > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of ec > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:04 AM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: RedSeven new store party > > I loose respect for ANY, ah, id**t that makes it hard to read, either dark > on dark or light on light text/whatever. > > There is NO excuse to make people jump thru hoops to read the text. Nor > view > the page.....PERIOD END!! > > --- Craig White wrote: > > > On Tue, 2005-09-06 at 07:31 -0700, ec wrote: > > > Yes, I just lost some 'respect' for them/their 'better' ideas! I > > > cannot read it till I highlight > > it > > > or copy/paste to kwrite!! > > > > > > Hope they read this!! > > > > > ---- > > Downtown Phoenix Store - September 7th > > > > Big News! RedSeven is opening another location right in Downtown > > Phoenix's CopperSquare. Please join us for the Grand Opening Party on > > September 7th from 4pm - 7pm. > > > > 23 W. Jefferson St. Phoenix, AZ 85003 (SW Central & Jefferson). *FYI: > > Parking Meters in Downtown Phoenix are FREE after 5pm. > > > > if this helps... > > > > Craig > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > > settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > Cyclists should expect and demand safe > accommodation on our public roads, > just as does every other user. > > Nothing more is expected. > > Nothing less is acceptable! > > Long live Knoppix!! > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. > http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --- > [ This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Phoenix Internet ] [ Phoenix > Internet http://www.phoenixinternet.net ] > > > --- > [ This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Phoenix Internet ] > [ Phoenix Internet http://www.phoenixinternet.net ] > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 10:39:39 -0700 > From: Carl Parrish > Subject: Where to report abuse > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <431DD45B.5040704@pcl-consulting.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I can use the collective's advise on this. from my logs I see that one > IP address tried to login to one of my servers 32 times they tried 16 > different user name / passwd combos. How should I deal with this? > > I know all IP addresses fo people authorized to login to this server > this is not one of them. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:55:16 -0700 > From: "Ed Skinner" > Subject: Re: Where to report abuse > To: cparrish@pcl-consulting.com, "Main PLUG discussion list" > , "Carl Parrish" > > Message-ID: <200509061055.16266.ed@flat5.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Tuesday 06 September 2005 10:39, Carl Parrish wrote: > > I can use the collective's advise on this. from my logs I see that one > > IP address tried to login to one of my servers 32 times they tried 16 > > different user name / passwd combos. How should I deal with this? > > Monitor it as you are doing, verify to your satisfaction that your > systems are secure against the kinds of assault you see as well as those > reported by others, and then forget it. (It never stops.) > > -- > Ed Skinner, ed@flat5.net, http://www.flat5.net/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2005 11:00:06 -0700 > From: Sean Horan > Subject: Re: Where to report abuse > To: cparrish@pcl-consulting.com, Main PLUG discussion list > > Message-ID: <431DD926.8070606@emvis.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > whois -h whois.arin.net off.end.ing.ip > > will give you the whois record for the ip, or tell you the whois server > to go to (eg, at APNIC). your version of whois may figure this out for > you so the -h argument might be optional. > > I get what you describe daily on my server. The machines are botted and > I don't think there's much point to complaining. > > Spending your time keeping your machine locked down is the best response > to this as opposed to drafting abuse emails for every last IP that > shows up. if they in fact got in, then I'd of course be banging down > their door. > > --sean > > Carl Parrish wrote: > > I can use the collective's advise on this. from my logs I see that one > > IP address tried to login to one of my servers 32 times they tried 16 > > different user name / passwd combos. How should I deal with this? > > > > I know all IP addresses fo people authorized to login to this server > > this is not one of them. > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:00:27 -0700 (MST) > From: "der.hans" > Subject: NO evacuee help > To: quatsch > Message-ID: > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > moin, moin, > > the state is putting evacuees up at the coliseum/fairgrounds. They will > likely be there for a month ( longer at other locations ). They do have > cell phones, but do not have Net connectivity. > > I have approached the state about setting up a few boxen for the evacuees > to use for email and resumes. > > The IT department is interested in assistance in getting the evacuees > setup with Net access. > > I already have a few volunteers for setting up the network. > > We might be able to get boxen from STRuT, but we won't know until > tomorrow. If that falls through I'll likely need help getting donations > that we can setup in the next few days. > > I would like to say this is a PLUG effort ( most everyone involved thus > far is from PLUG ). Is that cool with everyone? > > If this goes well we might be asked to do the same thing in Tucson and > maybe at ASU as well. > > ciao, > > der.hans > -- > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ > # If you don't think for yourself, others will think for you -- > # to their advantage. -- Harold Gordon > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > End of PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 3, Issue 12 > ******************************************* >