I work at Intel as a process engineer, and while we struggle with work-life balance, TSMC takes it to a whole new level. You couldn't pay me enough to work for them even if I lost my job today, that is if I wanted to retain my marriage and ever see my kids again.

-Matt

On 6/6/23 21:06, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Most Southeast Asian (SEA) countries' standards of work hours would horrify most Americans if applied, but same as there (likely) will be no canings here, labor laws tend to frown on mandating 60 hour work weeks.  Of course they will frown on the lazy American's "only" working 40 hours a week, taking breaks, or actually paying overtime with a certain passive-aggressiveness anyways, such is the cost of doing business in another country with different rules.

Likewise go work for a company, local or other, that has been taken over by the various Indian outsourcing companies like Wipro, Tata, Infosys, or others, you'll get a taste of the same SEA feel once they've adequately metastasized within a company.  There's always huge cultural boundaries that make those relationships... interesting when applied domestically.

I've heard plenty of horror stories from Intel, Motorola, OnSemi, Honeywell, and other domestic, even local AZ chip plants, I don't expect TSMC would be that much worse operating here.

Of course you could always go work for the likes of good old homegrown JP Morgan (or most any domestic financial org) for the real sweatshop/1984 experience.  Go 'Murica!

-mb


On Tue, Jun 6, 2023 at 5:45 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
Chip maker TSMC is moving to chandler and I have read they are a
sweatshop....

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