I do not think creating a burden on one person to force another into compliance is the solution.  The government does this at all levels.

Payroll :  Companies have to collect and disperse payroll withholding for the government to ensure the employee pays his or her taxes.  SOLUTION: flat tax that requires the person not the employer to make a monthly deposit.  Put the burden on the taxpayer.

Sales Tax :   When I had a sales tax license I had to collect sales tax at the point of sale, do the reporting, and disburse the money, as well as manage it until disbursed.  SOLUTION : No sales tax.  A flat income tax paid to the fed, state, county, and local gov by the taxpayer.

In the case of this bill, the gov is putting the burden on business not the tax payer.  Why is it my responsibility to ensure someone else pays their taxes.  And just because I sell someone something, it does not make me a party to them not paying what the law says they owe.  It is their responsibility.

I understand some restrictions like making sure the auto lub companies do not dispose of used oil by pouring it in the alley.  HOWEVER do not make me responsible for someone else's debt.  

These laws do more damage than good.





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Keith Smith

--- On Wed, 5/8/13, Lyle Tuttle <l.tuttle@cox.net> wrote:

From: Lyle Tuttle <l.tuttle@cox.net>

Subject: Re: OT: Internet Sales Tax Passes the U.S. Senate

To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>

Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 9:01 AM

At 05:16 AM 5/8/2013, JD Austin wrote:

I'm calling a little BS on your over simplification Bryan; you certainly DID NOT have to deal with more than one one state's sales tax rules unless you had a physical presence there.

1.  I own a business that is head quartered in one state, but does the majority of our business in a total of three states....and some Nation-wide as well.  We do well over $1 Million/yr.

   There are even  different rates for different kind of sales; it is not a simple thing at all and is disingenuous to pretend it is.  Just having to deal with periodic tax updates alone on a national level is a burden unless you're a huge company like Amazon.   Imagine having to pay More than you collected because it wasn't up to date.

2.  We have to deal with the different State, City and other "Special" taxes depending on where our customer lives - it is all sorted/calculated  by zip code.  We have (and have for years!) software that adds the tax on the customer's bill; tallys it up in a report for us, and even prints out the paperwork required to submit the money.......SOME OF WHICH WE GET TO KEEP TO PAY FOR OUR 'WORK'......

   How would you send that money to each state?

3.  Electronic transfer.......

   Would a business need a bank account for each State like they do for just a single one?

4.  Why?  We have no "special" bank account for the tax monies collected.......

5.  Please do not get the impression that I like these taxes; I do not! (The taxis not as bad as what they spend it on!!!)  I am merely pointing out that this is not an unsurmountable task - yes, it is a pain, but it is just a part of doing business.  Remember, every time you buy something from out of state, YOU are supposed to remit that tax on your State form at tax time.....but no one (ok, maybe one person??) does.  How can we condone breaking the law on this?  If we do not like it, then we should change the law; for us to encourage breaking the law puts us in a position (IMHO) as partners with Eric Holder.

I am more fearful that this might be the nose of the camel under the edge of the tent, ie, once these bozos in DC find they can control/get money from the internet - Katie bar the door!

lurker lyle

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