Mike,

    I hope I did not offend you.  I am simply tired of seeing CAD projects started and then fizzing out before they have any real progress to show for themselves.  I am sure there are many people more qualified than myself to run this project, however, from my perspective they have had their chance.  I have sat back and waited for years for a full featured CAD program, but one was never completed, or finished enough to be usable. 
    I am willing to devote myself to this project for up to 10 years if I have too.  I have already invested a lot of time and money to this project before I went public with it.  It was only recently that I felt I was close enough to my goals to ask for help.  It is my devotion and what I feel is a sufficient knowledge of Linux and CAD that caused me to volunteer to run/host this project. 
    Getting people interested in the project is turning out to be easier than getting people to help with the project.  Although, I want to be sensitive to other peoples ideas, I also want the project to keep moving forward, and not sideways.  If I let the project change directions every time someone has an idea then it might keep moving sideways indefinitely.  On the other hand if I ignore everyone's ideas I doubt anyone will help. 
    This project is at a very difficult point in it's development.  I feel that I am at that point where I need to expand, and finding a few dedicated, and somewhat like minded people to help me run it is proving difficult.  Although, many people say they are interested in the project, or they are willing to give me advice on how to run the project.  I have yet to receive a phone call or an email telling me when they will be coming over to help.
     The biggest problem I have right now is finishing a few glitches in the infrastructure and getting the website up and running.  After that I believe we should be in good shape, because then we can run the project from the website.  This will keep the amount of local help needed to a minimum.

Sincerely,
MatthewMPP

Mike Schwartz wrote:
OK,
it was not my intention to "insist" on a certain idea.  Just to "offer" an idea. 
If you are willing and able, to do certain things, then -- great! 
...and as far as, who "should" make the decisions... I might not know the answer to that one, but apparently (in this case at least), it is someone "other than me".
-- 
Mike Schwartz    
Glendale  AZ 
schwartz@acm.org

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Matthew A Coulliette <matthewlug@cox.net> wrote:
Hi,

    I appreciate the brainstorming, and at one point I considered something along these lines.  However, having an electrical background, computer science comes naturally to me.  I built a raid 5 data server, a raid 1 web server, a router, and 4 workstations.  With the web server running raid 1 and occasionally backed up to the raid 5 data server, I believe the data should be adequately backed up.  I am having a few problems with implementing the software which I was hoping someone would help me with, but, no worries either way.  I will eventually learn how to over come any obstacle that is in front of me.
    I do not mean to be insensitive, I know that if I work alone on this project it might very well take me the rest of my life, and that would not be in the spirit of linux.  To me the spirit of linux is us working together to over come obstacles that we would not be able to over come by ourselves.  I also know that when people volunteer on a project they like to feel that their opinion counts, (and it should count).  However, the project manager (the person dedicated to seeing the project all the way from beginning to end) must be the guiding hand, in order to give the project stability and direction.  To me, this is especially true with linux, where there are some ways of doing the same thing.

MatthewMPP




Lisa Kachold wrote: 
Great idea Mike!

The same thing is available with php/mysql and mail for about $20.00
upgrade on free stuff at 110mb.com - see examples
wiki.obnosis.com
nuke.obnosis.com
moodle.obnosis.com

I have a few others....what did I name them?

<meningioma moment>


On 5/12/09, Mike Schwartz <schwartz@acm.org> wrote:
  
I also have an idea -- a suggestion to check out the free wiki [hosting]
service available at
   http://www.wikispaces.com/site/pricing
but since it is also outside the scope of the "day and time" thread, I
decided to create this sub-thread or "branch".
    If the BlenderCAD initiative does need (well, if it could use) a wiki,
then I think this might save some hassle, -- of running / managing a server.
   Of course, if the BlenderCAD initiative were some kind of proprietary
company project, then maybe some of the ideas on the wiki might be trade
secrets or not-yet-patented inventions, or something -- so then, it
might not be appropriate to keep the [wiki] info on someone else's server;
 but since this is more like a non-profit cooperative joint venture to
create / improve some FLOSS (isn't it?) therefore, this ["free" wiki] idea
should be OK.  (right?)
--
Mike Schwartz
Glendale  AZ
schwartz@acm.org

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Mike Schwartz
<mike.l.schwartz@gmail.com>wrote:

    
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Matthew A Coulliette
<matthewlug@cox.net>wrote:

      
Hi all,

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