craigwhite@azapple.com wrote:
GPL is very business friendly - you have a particular angle on it that
you aren't articulating but rather painting it with a broad and
misleading brush.

Craig

On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 08:20 -0700, Nathan England wrote:
  
Honestly, I don't own an iPod. I don't care to listen to music much. I have 
some hymns and Gospel music, that's it. I was simply trying to make a point.
I don't know why I'm arguing this, I'd much rather use OGG as well. But back 
to my original rant, companies wouldn't be so afraid to use things if the GPL 
was more bussiness friendly.

On Wednesday 18 October 2006 08:08, you wrote:
    
On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 08:06 -0700, Nathan England wrote:
      
Don't blame the "distro makers". Blame those who used MP3 format. (For
at least a few years we have had better choices.)
          
Better choices? I agree. I used to love the old vq3 format, it blew away
mp3 completely! OGG? It's ok. I used to use it, till I realized that it
doesn't work anywhere.

My car stereo plays mp3 files.
My iPod plays mp3 files.
My DVD player plays mp3 files.
        
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No question about it, it's easier to give in to proprietary standards
than to resist and push the manufacturers to adopt the open standards.

When you talk about an iPod, you are talking about Apple who has an axe
to grind as they seek to become the dominant force in DRM.

And just out of curiosity, doesn't iTunes convert the mp3 files into AAC
format before putting them on your iPod?
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None of them have any idea what OGG is.
        
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Are you sure about the 'none' ?

Craig
      

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I don't think the GPL is that business friendly as it levels the playing field.  The last thing that companies want is competition and that is what the GPL offers.  Companies like proprietary items so they don't have to worry about competition or innovation.  They can milk what they have for a very long time.

As for "out of box" experience, pay for Suse or Mandriva if you want MP3 working without hassle.  The companies license the MP3 players and therefore supply it in their distros.