Am 08. Feb, 2006 schwätzte Randy Melder so: > editor beating death on > google.cn > editor beating death on > google.com Those are two different searches. The first is a web search and the second is a news search. http://www.Google.com/search?hl=de&q=editor+beating+death&btnG=Google-Suche&lr= http://www.Google.de/search?hl=de&q=editor+beating+death&btnG=Google-Suche&meta= Still different results for .cn. http://www.Google.de/search?hl=zh-CN&q=editor+beating+death&btnG=Google-Suche&meta= Note that's Chinese language, but Google.de. http://www.Google.com/search?hl=en-US&q=editor+beating+death&btnG=Google-Suche&lr= Still essentially the same non-.cn results for US search at Google.com. Wonder what happens if you make an English search of Google.cn from within .cn? In any case, please remember that companies have had to censor themselves or customers due to local laws elsewhere. .fr and .de don't allow several things ( trying to avoid Godwin's Law ( Oh my! Now, I'm censoring myself... ) ), the .us doesn't allow 'child' porn. Depending on the age of the 'child' the same content might be perfectly legal elsewhere as some other countries have younger ages of consent. Most countries also censor technology exchange to some extent, e.g. PGP. If Google and m$ are truly notifying people when results have been left out due to government restrictions that's already pushing the envelope to reduce censorship. Do Google or m$ notify us if searches are censored in the .us? Are there pages that don't get indexed by Google due to content? I can't read the dominoes and things at the bottom of the .cn page, so no idea if those are warnings of censorship. > do no evil... well maybe just a little evil. no one will notice. Turning info over to the .us gov't without fighting the illegal request is evil. Turning over personal info the the .cn gov't or the RIAA or MPAA without fighting it is evil. If they lose the fight they still have to comply with the law. I'd like to think one would choose to just not do business in a country like that, but I doubt Google, m$ or Yahoo are going to stop doing business in the .us... As to Joshua's point below. No, I don't just jump up against something because m$ is doing it. I try to only criticize the evil things m$ does. Pretty easy considering how large that list is... BTW, is m$ still skewing search results to censor critics and abnormally promote its own pages? The Tiananmen queries below end up both being handled by .com servers for me and have the same results. ciao, der.hans > On 2/6/06, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> >> This is too good to hold back. >> >> Tiananmen image search in China >> Tiananmen image search in the rest of the world >> >> >> On 2/2/06, Randy Melder wrote: >>> >>> What's really sad is that if it were Microsoft agreeing to censorship, >>> you'd be all over them... for some reason, Google gets a pass? Why? >>> >> > -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ # Join the League of Professional System Administrators! https://LOPSA.org/ # Science is magic explained. - der.hans