On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 13:54:45 -0700 Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Hi, > > I have one app that is windows only. I am not going to upgrade to > win11. Why not? Is Win11 really that incompatible with Win10? Is this an app you wrote, or something somebody else sold you? You're a PHP programmer: Why don't you just make a program that does the same thing? I'm having trouble understanding this whole thread. First, the old African proverb: The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, the second best time is now. I took the punch in the early 00's and went Windows-free. Yeah, it was tough. Yeah, I still miss my beloved Micrografx Windows Draw program, because it was better than Inkscape. But now the only thing this impending Win10 drop does to me is allows me to get a half decent computer, to use with Linux, at pre-tariff prices. OK, if you didn't convert 20 years ago, it can still be done now. You have five months. If the app was written by you, you have 5 months to adapt it to Win11. It will probably take 48 hours. If it's somebody else's app, you can probably find a Linux alternative. I've seen people in this thread speaking as if buying a new computer was the equivalent of buying your first house. If Windows is important to you, $3K for a fully loaded desktop isn't unreasonable. Hell, I paid $4.5K for a 486-10 in 1990, which is probably the equivalent of $9K now. It seems to me that if Windows is important to you, you pay for the privilege every 5 years. If it's not, just jam Linux on the Win10 machine and get the performance you would have gotten from a brand new Win11 machine. The longer we kick the Win2Lin conversion can down the road, the more opportunity we give Bill Gates' descendants to uproot our computer lives at a whim. Kind of like they're doing on October 14, 2025. Desktop Linux never promised to be as good as Windows in every respect. It never promised to run every windows app. What Linux *did* promise was the GNU GPLv2: The ability to modify and pass on the modifications. The GPLv2 enables you to find new ways to do the workflow formerly accomplished by Windows and other proprietary software. It might not be as pretty. It might require me to write shellscripts and make other accommodations. But the job gets done. And in the majority of cases, the job gets done much better than it ever did on Windows. Bottom line: It would have been great to get rid of Windows 20 years ago, and the second best time is right now. Throw the thing off your computer, and declare your independence from Gates, Ballmer, and all those who followed. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2023 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss