On 2025-01-26 07:12, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > David Schwartz you are one of the smartest guys I know, I have deep > respect for you. It is very disappointing that we are polar opposites > when it comes to politics and religion. > > In reading this post I am biting my tongue. I would ask that we all > refrain from getting into political discourse. > > I have lots of LAMP questions and all of you on this list have > something to offer. > > As mentioned in a post yesterday I might currently be the most active > member of this list. As said I have tons of LAMP questions. For > Some how I hit send.... Last thought was for a number of reasons I was kind of absent from tech from 2019 until about a year ago. My lat Linux experience was with CentOS.... I did a few projects however my skills got stale. Thanks to the members of this list and ChatGPT I am now able to configure Ubuntu into a LAMP server that is configured with PHP-FPM. For me that was a huge step forward. I need everyone of you and I do not want to get into any fights over politics and/or religion. Keith > > On 2025-01-26 03:51, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> On Jan 26, 2025, at 12:51 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: >>> >>> David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:44:19 >>> -0700 >>> >>>> And when claiming ChatGPT is giving you unbiased information >>>> about >>>> politics, especially anything that involves Trump, you’re >>>> fooling >>>> yourself. Trump says whatever he wants and doesn’t care because >>>> he >>>> conned the SCOTUS into ruling that he has “absolute immunity”. >>> >>> See. I knew the original post would come to the preceding. >>> >>> SteveT >> >> I guess that means you will NEVER, EVER, under ANY circumstances, >> complain about the shift happening on large social media platforms to >> stop fact-checking things. >> >> Because what we call the “truth” today is now a matter of >> political convenience and leverage rather than rooted in anything >> based in fact. >> >> And if facts and truth are unrooted, then why should you expect >> anything on a platform like ChatGPT to be any different? >> >> Remember that this whole conversation started out with an assertion >> that ChatGPT is a BETTER SOURCE OF FACTS AND TRUTH than traditional >> news media. For media that cares about the FACTS and it’s own >> INTEGRITY, then I’d say that’s total BS. My experience with these >> AI platforms is that it’s VERY BUGGY in terms of accuracy. >> Unfortunately, if you aren’t familiar with the subject matter, >> you’re not going to know that. Or even if you are but you trust it >> and don’t bother reviewing the material with a critical eye. >> >> FWIW, I was having an interesting conversation with ChatGPT about a >> variety of financial topics, and at one point it showed a split-screen >> type of display and asked my opinion about which response I thought >> was better — the one on the left or the one on the right. It was the >> same basic info just presented differently. >> >> i chose the one on the right, even though it had a blatent error in it >> that was displayed correct on the left side: >> >> In a bullet item that related to a corporation making a loan to you as >> an owner/employee, it said this regarding the interest paid on the >> loan: >> >>> _You repay the loan with interest, and the business can even deduct >>> the interest as a business expense!_ >> >> In fact, this was the most BLATENT error I found during the rather >> lengthy discussion we had, but hardly the only error I encountered. (I >> caught over a dozen, and I’m not a CPA or even an accountant.) >> >> As far as people who like to wave stinky allegations about “the >> Biden crime family” taking a $10M bribe” — the one that a Senate >> investigation turned up nothing but a guy who lied repeatedly to the >> FBI, then owned-up and SAID IT WAS ALL A LIE — and yet don’t even >> wince when someone mentions that Trump’s son-in-law — with >> absolutely zero experience doing financial management — was handed >> $2 BILLION to manage and given a 1.25% management fee ($25M), then I >> rest my case. >> >> NEITHER OF THESE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS IS FACTUALLY DISPUTABLE. THE >> FORMER IS A BLATENT LIE THAT’S REPEATED OVER AND OVER AS IF IT’S >> TRUE, AND THE LATTER IS 100% FACTUAL THAT NOBODY WHO REPEATS THE >> FORMER LIE WILL **EVER** DISCUSS! >> >> Facts don’t matter any more. It’s that simple. They're merely a >> lever to be used by political opportunists. >> >> Just for contrast, the alleged $10M “bribe” paid to “Biden crime >> family” is just a bit smaller than the ~$25M fee — paid ANNUALLY >> — to the “Trump crime family” as part of a totally inexplicable >> transaction that nobody in their right mind could rationalize given >> the other “facts” in play (that are also totally ignored). >> >> I’M NOT TALKING POLITICS HERE!!!! >> >> This thred is about one simple question: DO FACTS STILL MATTER? >> >> There are people who will go to their death bed swearing that the LIE >> in the case above is more compelling than the TRUTH. I know that. >> Y’all know that. And I’m sure someone here might even be tempted >> to try defending it. (That would only reinforce what I just said >> here.) >> >> If 40 milloin people “can’t be wrong” about this, then who are >> we to say ChatGPT isn't 100% factual AND more accurate than >> traditional news outlets — in spite of the clear evidence to the >> contrary? >> >> If you want to argue politics, then declare where you stand FIRST >> about whether FACTS MATTER TO YOU. >> >> Because if they do, then don’t waste our time with lies. >> >> Most political discussions today are a waste of time because they have >> become rooted in lies. And I am not interested in debating lies. >> >> -David Schwartz >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss