David Schwartz you are one of the smartest guys I know, I have deep respect for you. It is very disappointing that we are polar opposites when it comes to politics and religion. In reading this post I am biting my tongue. I would ask that we all refrain from getting into political discourse. I have lots of LAMP questions and all of you on this list have something to offer. As mentioned in a post yesterday I might currently be the most active member of this list. As said I have tons of LAMP questions. For On 2025-01-26 03:51, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> On Jan 26, 2025, at 12:51 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss said on Sat, 25 Jan 2025 12:44:19 >> -0700 >> >>> And when claiming ChatGPT is giving you unbiased information >>> about >>> politics, especially anything that involves Trump, you’re >>> fooling >>> yourself. Trump says whatever he wants and doesn’t care because >>> he >>> conned the SCOTUS into ruling that he has “absolute immunity”. >> >> See. I knew the original post would come to the preceding. >> >> SteveT > > I guess that means you will NEVER, EVER, under ANY circumstances, > complain about the shift happening on large social media platforms to > stop fact-checking things. > > Because what we call the “truth” today is now a matter of > political convenience and leverage rather than rooted in anything > based in fact. > > And if facts and truth are unrooted, then why should you expect > anything on a platform like ChatGPT to be any different? > > Remember that this whole conversation started out with an assertion > that ChatGPT is a BETTER SOURCE OF FACTS AND TRUTH than traditional > news media. For media that cares about the FACTS and it’s own > INTEGRITY, then I’d say that’s total BS. My experience with these > AI platforms is that it’s VERY BUGGY in terms of accuracy. > Unfortunately, if you aren’t familiar with the subject matter, > you’re not going to know that. Or even if you are but you trust it > and don’t bother reviewing the material with a critical eye. > > FWIW, I was having an interesting conversation with ChatGPT about a > variety of financial topics, and at one point it showed a split-screen > type of display and asked my opinion about which response I thought > was better — the one on the left or the one on the right. It was the > same basic info just presented differently. > > i chose the one on the right, even though it had a blatent error in it > that was displayed correct on the left side: > > In a bullet item that related to a corporation making a loan to you as > an owner/employee, it said this regarding the interest paid on the > loan: > >> _You repay the loan with interest, and the business can even deduct >> the interest as a business expense!_ > > In fact, this was the most BLATENT error I found during the rather > lengthy discussion we had, but hardly the only error I encountered. (I > caught over a dozen, and I’m not a CPA or even an accountant.) > > As far as people who like to wave stinky allegations about “the > Biden crime family” taking a $10M bribe” — the one that a Senate > investigation turned up nothing but a guy who lied repeatedly to the > FBI, then owned-up and SAID IT WAS ALL A LIE — and yet don’t even > wince when someone mentions that Trump’s son-in-law — with > absolutely zero experience doing financial management — was handed > $2 BILLION to manage and given a 1.25% management fee ($25M), then I > rest my case. > > NEITHER OF THESE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS IS FACTUALLY DISPUTABLE. THE > FORMER IS A BLATENT LIE THAT’S REPEATED OVER AND OVER AS IF IT’S > TRUE, AND THE LATTER IS 100% FACTUAL THAT NOBODY WHO REPEATS THE > FORMER LIE WILL **EVER** DISCUSS! > > Facts don’t matter any more. It’s that simple. They're merely a > lever to be used by political opportunists. > > Just for contrast, the alleged $10M “bribe” paid to “Biden crime > family” is just a bit smaller than the ~$25M fee — paid ANNUALLY > — to the “Trump crime family” as part of a totally inexplicable > transaction that nobody in their right mind could rationalize given > the other “facts” in play (that are also totally ignored). > > I’M NOT TALKING POLITICS HERE!!!! > > This thred is about one simple question: DO FACTS STILL MATTER? > > There are people who will go to their death bed swearing that the LIE > in the case above is more compelling than the TRUTH. I know that. > Y’all know that. And I’m sure someone here might even be tempted > to try defending it. (That would only reinforce what I just said > here.) > > If 40 milloin people “can’t be wrong” about this, then who are > we to say ChatGPT isn't 100% factual AND more accurate than > traditional news outlets — in spite of the clear evidence to the > contrary? > > If you want to argue politics, then declare where you stand FIRST > about whether FACTS MATTER TO YOU. > > Because if they do, then don’t waste our time with lies. > > Most political discussions today are a waste of time because they have > become rooted in lies. And I am not interested in debating lies. > > -David Schwartz > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss