I think the official EOL is sometime next year. MS got themselves into a bit of a pickle from what I can tell. Win11 requires some security thing in a separate chip or inside of Intel CPUs built after some point. They’ve played a hard line saying nothing will work on Win11 without that bit of hardware. By EOLing all Win10 machines and forcing them to upgrade to Win11, they’ll turn a LOT of hardware into bricks. Last week they announced they’re going to back-down on that and will allow Win11 to be installed on older hardware without that chip. And ... they just announced they’ll even offer a subscription to keep Win10 updated with security patches for another 5 years or so, like they’ve been doing with Win7 for a while now. I think they’ve figured out that bricking millions of computers around the world and forcing their owners to upgrade their hardware might not be very good for their bottom-line. I’d expect they’ll bury AI in all of their new software and it will slow all of these older machines way down to the point where they’ll be unusable. DOS runs pretty damn fast on even 10yo hardware! Frankly, even when I tell Windows to STOP UPDATING, it just keeps on doing it. The best reason to keep Win10 is the prospect that it might, finally, REALLY STOP UPDATING it’s damn self! People love talking about the “Apple Tax” but this broken record that MS goes through with every new generation of Windows is getting really old. First it was Win95, then XP, then Win7, now Win10. Sheesh. I can’t upgrade MacOS on my two older Mac Mini’s any more, but they keep telling me of upgrades. I just bought a new M4 Mac Mini, so I’ll be able to start upgrading some of my software, but frankly this old hardware is fine by me as long as it keeps running. One is a 2014 model and one is a 2018 model. Now they have a new little brother, a brand new Fall 2024 model. :) -David Schwartz > On Dec 14, 2024, at 12:27 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 12:14:54 -0700 > >> Hi David, >> >> I'm sure you know this... W10 will be at end of life in about 10 >> months. > > I thought W10 was already EOL'ed. I thought there were no more security > updates. > > My wife has a W10 laptop that performs like a 1024 baud modem, so she > bought a new one. I'm trying to convince here to give the old one > (which is pretty much useless) to me so I can slap on Void Linux and > give it another 3 years of life. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > > http://444domains.com > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss