My daily driver is a 10 year old dell running an i5, 16GB of RAM, and a SSD. It runs stock Kubuntu 22.04. $ free -h total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 15Gi 3.4Gi 8.4Gi 958Mi 3.7Gi 10Gi Swap: 2.0Gi 0B 2.0Gi keith@Kubuntu22:~$ I have a FF browser open with 10 tabs in use. I have 2 Libre Office spreadsheets open, and Thunderbird running. It does well until I open too many browser tabs. My other machine is an 8 year old laptop that has a 2 core / 4 thread CPU, 16GB of RAM, a 256GB M.2, and a 500GB spinner. It runs Windows 10. I use it for creating videos because my video editor is Windows only. I run win10, Camtasia video editor, VirtualBox, one Ubuntu server VM, and Putty. When I check utilization I find it is using less than 9GB of RAM and the CPU is at about 70%. In the past I tried running a LAMP stack at 1GB of RAM and it kept crashing when doing simple things. I find 1 vCPU and 2GB of RAM is the minimum. I am shocked at how much RAM a modern desktop needs to run effectively. Seems the real problem is the modern browsers. Keith On 2024-07-17 13:36, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss said on Mon, 15 Jul 2024 16:18:33 -0700 > >> This is the Linux I know!! >> >> https://www.zdnet.com/article/want-to-save-your-old-computer-try-these-5-linux-distributions/ > > The last time they made a computer with less than 1GB RAM was the > bargain basement computers from 2007. Normal computers of that time > came with 2GB or 4GB. > > I think any distro can be made to exist within 1GB RAM. Just use a > lightweight user interface like Openbox, IceWM, ctwm, fvwm, and > probably many others. If you want a desktop environment, LXDE or LXQt > are tiny. > > Then use a small browser like surf or luakit. I think even Chromium > will fit into 1GB if you use only one tab and don't browse to a site > with insane amounts of Javascript. Mutt, Alpine, Claws-Mail are good, > lightweight email clients. Use Inkscape or drawing. > > The advantage of mainstream distros like Devuan, Debian, Void, Gentoo, > Funtoo and others is that they have a full compliment of application > packages. Last time I tried Puppy Linux (which was a long time ago), it > had few packages. > > Just for fun I took my Void VM, set it to use 512MB, and ran it. I > installed Chromium and Libreoffice, ran Chromium, enabled Chromium's > memory saver, and pulled up both Buick.Com and Ford.Com, both are pigs. > Then I created a small Libreoffice file. > > When browsing, the computer was noticeably slow and jerky, but we *are* > talking about 512MB here. I don't know whether I could have *installed* > Void with only 512MB, but I sure could run it. I installed it with 1MB > just fine. By the way, when I set it down to 256MB, the VM failed to > boot. > > In wealthy nations like US, UK, and EU, it would be bizarre to find > somebody running a computer with less than 1GB of RAM, so I think those > tiny versions are aimed for people in third world countries. If you > have 1GB RAM you can run almost any distro if you carefully curate your > applications. Almost all desktops and laptops made in the last 10 years > have at least 4GB RAM. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > > http://444domains.com > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss