Mike, From about 2000 - maybe 2004 I was involved with the TFUG. They were big on Debian. They helped me with desktop questions and issues. I was able to run a LAMP server in maybe 2002 with the help of TFUG. Unfortunately I left the email relay open and someone found it and was sending spam through my server. I was bounced from the only ISP in Tucson that would allow servers on consumer grade Internet. I'm a big fan of PHP/MySQL. Been using both since maybe 2002. You seem to have decent Linux skills. I've been experimenting with ChatGPT (AI) for maybe 6 or 8 weeks now. I think AI must be taken into consideration when making a career move. I'm interested in Cyber Security as well. I suspect that to get into the game might require a lot of Windows knowledge as well as Linux. I suspect there might be a niche for LAMP/LEMP hosting security. Maybe there are others. If you are looking for a side hustle or freelance type of situation, I would suggest PHP/MySQL. I would suggest learning how to code using ChatGPT to help write your code. It is easier than you think. I recently had a discussion with a guy adverting on Craig's list. He told me he was building websites using ChatGPT 4. I'm using the free version 3.5. Remember code is reusable. I think there is a lot of prospects for those who have lower rates. There is a few job boards where you can offer your services. If you are interested you will need to have entry level skills in (I'm sure you already know this): HTML CSS Some JavaScript Some AJAX PHP MySQL/SQL I recommend getting familiar with phpMyAdmin I think you could easily install and setup VirtualBox and configure it with a LAMP/LEMP stack for development. If you haven't done so already. If you have an extra box that has a decent CPU and some decent RAM Proxmox might be an option. Keith On 2024-06-20 12:46, Michael wrote: > I was introduced to Linux in 97ish at an installfest at GCC. I went > with a friend and my computer where we put red hat on it. I remember > Hans was given a red fedora in appreciation for all his work in making > it happen. I don't think my friend ever got Linux running. I STRuggled > with red hat for two months, couldn't get internet to work, before I > brought the computer to a plug meeting and asked Hans to put windows > back on it.but I caught the Linux bug and at the next meeting, or > installfest, I put Debian on it. Everything worked with debian. > > You know, I want to get into something IT related. I was thinking > cyber security but programming might be better as I probably will have > to train myself. What do you guys think I should do? > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024, 10:15 AM wrote: > >> Thank you Mike!! >> >> What I really meant to say, in part, was there are some really >> talented >> and skilled people on this list. That is why I said one should take >> an >> inventory of what you have. You are fortunate. >> >> Thank you for your willingness to help those of us that struggle. I >> love >> technology and specifically programming. Technology has been a >> love/hate relationship. >> >> I was introduced to Linux in about 1998 or so. I think at that time >> I >> bought a box set of RedHat version 4.2 ... or so I recall. >> >> I had a couple corporate programming jobs. Nothing special. I had >> to >> start freelancing to really get into the game. I have to tell you >> it >> was all God. >> >> In the early days I was also on the Tucson Free Unix Group list. >> TFUG >> and PLUG have been instrumental in my success. >> >> Thank you for allowing us to lurk on your list and ask silly >> questions. >> >> Keith >> >> On 2024-06-20 06:14, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> And thank you Keith for your words! I wish I could remember >> meeting >>> you. The only names I can associate with a 30 year younger face is >>> Brian and Hans. >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 8:30 PM Michael >> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for the support, Eric. >>>> So glad that things are working out for you! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2024, 12:14 AM Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> I am totally blind, and that’s partly due to traumatic brain >>>>> injury back in 1989. I’ve also had my moments where I am >>>>> exceedingly curse when it comes to some subjects. I also tend to >>>>> be a little bit obsessive, compulsive, and that happens to be >> the >>>>> autistic side of my nature which I’ve had all my life. I am a >>>>> bit unusual, but science and technology are my thing so I tend >> not >>>>> to ask too many questions because I’ve already done most of >> the >>>>> research. However, sometimes research isn’t enough and I may >> end >>>>> up having gas questions here. So, one should look past some of >> the >>>>> commentary on here and recognize and realize those of us were >>>>> traumatic brain. Injuries may not necessarily operate in a >> normal >>>>> fashion. I happen to be one of the few exceptions because the >> area >>>>> of the brain and question for me that was damaged with my visual >>>>> cortex. Also, as an aside, I also have prosthetic eyes, so it >>>>> doesn’t matter what my visual cortex does because I wouldn’t >>>>> be able to perceive anything anyway. In any case, this really >>>>> hasn’t slowed me down much in both the accessibility and >> Lennox >>>>> fields. I’ve been writing a bunch of scripts, especially for . >>>>> Comes in handy when I want to download a video from YouTube and >>>>> then listen to it using VLC. Makes a lot easier than having to >>>>> deal with the stupid app and their commercials. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, that’s my opinion on this subject and now we should >>>>> probably get back to Lennox and what it can be used for and how >>>>> accessible it really is. >>>>> >>>>> – Eric >>>>> From the central offices of the Technomage Guild, Opinions and >>>>> research department. >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 16, 2024, at 6:22 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I hear about and read about everyone wanting to get along. >> I >>>>> am old enough to know that is impossible. I tend to get >> political >>>>> and my views are at odds with some or maybe most on the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is what I came to say. Shame on you all. You need to >> take >>>>> an inventory for what you have. Most of you can run me in the >>>>> ground. I struggle with technology. I always have. >>>>>> >>>>>> I talked with Mike about 10 years ago. Apparently you do not >>>>> know that Mike experienced a traumatic brain injury. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike do not let this get to you. It is just junior and senior >>>>> high BS. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been on this list since 1999 or 2000. Some of the >>>>> questions I ask are probably annoying. I use Google and as of >>>>> late have started using ChatGPT (AI) to seek information. The >>>>> latter seems to do a better job. >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe we are all here because of our common goal to work >>>>> with, learn, and enjoy Open Source - I know I am. I also know >> we >>>>> do not live in a vacuum. Other things overflow that are not Open >>>>> Source. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are a community. I could go as far as to say we are a >>>>> family. I heard a pastor say once that families prepare us for >>>>> the world. I guess families have a lot of strife. >>>>>> >>>>>> Keith >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2024-06-15 22:54, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>>>> There's been a long thread of people mocking somebody who >> asked >>>>> a >>>>>>> stupid question. Yeah, the guy's annoying; annoying Open >>>>> Sourceenough that I piped >>>>>>> all his posts to /dev/null starting two or three years ago. >>>>> This thread >>>>>>> worsens the list's signal to noise, and personally, it >>>>> constantly >>>>>>> reminds me of the annoying person I killfiled years ago. >>>>>>> I have a suggestion. If the guy annoys you, either ignore him, >>>>> correct >>>>>>> him offlist, or killfile him and move on. There's no need to >>>>> mess up >>>>>>> the list with mockery. Whether you believe, as I do, that he's >>>>> an >>>>>>> attention seeking troll who thinks his stupidity is cute, or >>>>> whether >>>>>>> you believe his behavior is entirely caused by some sort of >>>>> brain >>>>>>> injury, either way, the on-list mockery does no good for >>>>> anybody. >>>>>>> Ignore him, correct him offlist, or killfile him and move on. >>>>>>> SteveT >>>>>>> Steve Litt >>>>>>> Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century >>>>>>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> -- >>> >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss