Interesting Take George!! This article has an interesting take as well. https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/ai-greater-threat-wages-jobs-european-study-finds I'm a PHP dev. Easy to teach a machine to do what I do... at least the basics. Back in the Codeigniter 2.x days I used to follow a guy by the name of David Connolly - maybe 10 or 12 years ago? His channel : https://www.youtube.com/@davidconnelly/videos David has written his own framework that he says can help build an app. Not all that hard especially if you are using PHP Model-View-Controler. You probably recall the bad economy of the 80's. In 1982 I assumed a mortgage at 12.5% and mortgage rates were 17% back then. In the 70's & 80's we had high inflation just like today. I do not intend to turn this political... I am hoping to turn this into a discussion. There are other factors that are at play here. Some say the econ is going to crash again. Zombie business are on track to die. I've read that 20% of the businesses might be zombies. School loans and national debt... etc. I think all of this will effect wages and opportunities. I really struggled during the 80's and even into the 90's. I've lived through more bad economies than good. What we old timers did not have was a huge national debt and all the school loans... I'm thinking all of this will effect the future of the job market, what types of jobs are available, and compensation. Any thoughts? - Keith On 2023-12-02 13:18, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Thanks for posting. > > IMHO, the future is not in tech, as this article defined it, but > closely related: Identity and Access Management (IAM) and Privileged > Access Management (PAM), Mainframe operations (yes, mainframes are > still here), Red Team (ooooh - sexy :) ), and Data Analytics and > Machine Learning.  The pay is definitely comparable to this article's > top 5, if not higher. > > Whereas I liked being a sysadmin, my job got shipped to Argentina for > $6/hr (last I heard, they were up to $10/hr).  That's a really bad > place to be.  If you want to live a nice lifestyle ... and I've been > saying this since 2005 ... you have to do something that can't be > off-shored.  Do something that must be done in this country.  Lately, > this has come to mean: > > 1. Be inquisitive.  How can I make this cheaper, faster, less > resource-intensive?  Why did it break?  How do I keep it from ever > breaking again?  Will this failure happen elsewhere?  Three principles > for success: Make it easier for the User; make it cheaper; make it more > efficient. > > 2.  Challenge the status quo.  Just because it has always been this way > doesn't mean it's the best way now. > > 3. Write the solutions flowcharts.  If you follow a script (AKA > flowchart) to arrive at solutions to problems, you can be replaced by > an AI, specifically, an expert system, and in 5 years, a Generative AI > like Bard or ChatGPT.  Expert systems been around since the 60's.  > Hell, I wrote an AI (simple machine learning) in 1990 that corrected > spelling errors at the command line based on user performance.  You > need to be the one generating the flow chart for the folks to follow. > > 4. Be able to create metrics on everything you do.  "If you can't > measure it, you can't manage it" is the mantra of management this > decade.  I've had to become really creative with my metrics to show > improvement over time, especially when I begin to alter User behavior > before I figured out the metric.  Oopsies.  I've also discovered how to > create metrics that track the adoption and consumption of our services, > which helps management when they choose insane paths like replacing a > Gartner Magic Quadrant product some some Open Source stuff that's > "freeeee."  For those that don't know me, I've been an OS advocate > since 1998, but there ain't no such thing as a free lunch and when > Managers see $0.00 licensing costs, they oftentimes fail to understand > the local engineering effort required to meet that Proprietary > product's capabilities.  Yes, this is my hot topic this week as I > battle three levels of management on a fool-hardy decision whose > ramifications they don't understand. > > I'm in the process of changing careers.  The biggest problem I see is > the total lack of people that can do the above.  Our replacements don't > exist.  My whole US team is within 5 years of retirement/resignation > and we have nobody to replace us.  Wanna thrive in the next 20 years, > be the one that can do the above.  Be our replacements. > > BTW - I just had a film in the First Annual AIFilmFest and I > interrupted the film to sound the alarm about Generative AI taking over > junior level jobs.  But I rant ... > > Cheers! > > George Toft > > On 12/2/2023 7:30 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Found thins interesting: >> >> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackkelly/2023/12/01/these-are-the-10-highest-paying-tech-jobs-in-the-us/?sh=276f0e8c515a >> Keith >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss