Thanks!! On 2023-07-20 11:36, Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote: > I personally wouldn't even go for a used server. They're generally > loud, and even when they aren't they use much more electricity than > what you would get from a consumer platform. There's really no benefit > unless you have room in your house to make a real server room with > racks and the electrical capacity to go along with it. > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:59 AM, Stephen Partington wrote: > >> the downside for these processors is their mainboards are still very >> pricy to buy. much more than the CPU itself. you are almost better >> off looking for and buying a refurbished server which you can get >> for almost ludicrously inexpensive prices. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 1:56 PM Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> The CPU's cheap because it's old and no one wants them anymore -- >> it's of the same generation as 6000 series intel processors (i.e. >> skylake). It also uses a server socket, so the only motherboards >> you're going to be able to find are server motherboards. Those are >> going to be expensive and/or have other quirks, such as requiring a >> vendor specific heatsink, or a vendor-specific power supply, or take >> 5 minutes to start up, etc. >> >> You'd be better off spending money on a last-gen cpu and >> motherboard, for instance here's a combination that is relatively >> cheap: >> >> $174 for an i5-12400, which according to cpubenchmark.net [1] is >> nearly 30% faster than the Xeon you linked (score of 19501 vs 15146, >> much faster single-core score as well): >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-12400-Desktop-Processor-Cache/dp/B09NMPD8V2/ >> >> $139 for a compatible motherboard: >> >> > https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-B760M-DS3H-AX-Motherboard/dp/B0BSP61QZC/ >> >> I also wouldn't pay so much attention to the number of "threads" you >> think you'll need; you can run many VMs with a total number of >> virtual processors that is much more than what you actually have, >> and as long as you're not trying to go whole hog on every machine at >> the same time you'll be fine, and even if you do, you'll still be >> better off with a faster processor with a few fewer threads than an >> older slower cpu with more. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023, at 10:26 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I was surfing the Inter Web when I happened upon a Xeon server CPU. >> It >> >> is marked at $32.49 at Newegg. It has 12 cores and 24 threads and >> has a >> >> good benchmark score. >> >> > https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+Silver+4116+%40+2.10GHz&id=3179 >> >> https://www.newegg.com/p/274-000A-007K2?Description=Xeon >> >> In the future at some point I would like to build something with 20 >> plus >> >> or minus cores and 40 threads more or less for Proxmox. This would >> be >> >> over kills because I only need 1 or 2 VMs active at one time... >> maybe 3 >> >> in an extreme situation. >> >> This 12 core/24 thread CPU with 64Gb of Ram and a 1Tb SSD would >> really >> >> be more resources than I would ever need. Off the top of my head >> this >> >> means I might be able to build a decent Proxmox server for $500 - >> $600. >> >> I do not need fancy video except for one VM that might be running >> Win 10 >> >> or 11... I assume a server grade CPU would handle Win 10 and 11? >> >> Am I on the right track? >> >> Thank You For Your Feedback!! >> >> Keith >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > > Stephen > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://cpubenchmark.net > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss