techlists@phpcoderusa.com said on Mon, 12 Dec 2022 18:44:10 -0700 >It's funny how some people talk about the no payroll tax states and >then you find out they make it up with property tax. Illinois has obscenely high property taxes, a fairly high state income tax, and very high sales taxes. IMHO it's not a good place for a big spender to live unless you make a lot of money (which is easier in Chicago than most places). But it's flat and the cities are fairly bicycle friendly, so if you want to save $20K/year of post-tax income, Illinois is a pretty darn economical place to live. The wage scale there is pretty high, and if you can get in a union, you've got it made. Of course people our age are too old to get in a union. I lived in Chicago my first 30 years, which is how I know this stuff. SteveT Steve Litt Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss