On 2022-11-15 10:49, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Thanks Bob!! > > - I am running VB 7.0 > - I accepted all the defaults when installing Ubuntu 20.04lts - that > means DHCP. > - There are no entries in the VP network menu: files->tools->network > manger. > - Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network > is set to nat. > - ip is 10.0.2.15/25 > - sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade both work > - This is not my network, I am on 192.x.x.x Hit send by accident. Continues - Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network change nat to bridged adapter. It defaults to enp4s0 and enp3s0 is not selected but available. - now "ip a" shows ip as 192.168.1.111, - can connect via ssh - sudo apt update files: --- eith@plain-ubuntu20-lamp:~$ sudo apt update [sudo] password for keith: Err:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] Err:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] Err:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] Err:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.39 80] Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done 18 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them. W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-backports/InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.38 80] W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal-security/InRelease 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.39 80] W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. keith@plain-ubuntu20-lamp:~$ --- Thanks for your help!! Keith > > > > > > > > > > > On 2022-11-15 10:20, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem. >> When I set up my virtual machines I use bridged networking and let >> DHCP give out the address it should also tell the virtual machine the >> route to the internet. >> >> What IP address are you getting when you have access to the internet, >> and what address do you get when you're connected to the local >> network? >> >> This just sounds like a routing issue >> >> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's >>> VirtualBox >>> for web development testing. >>> >>> VirtualBox is a mess. I cannot get it to work for PHP testing. It >>> will >>> either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it >>> visible >>> to my local net and I am not able to pull in any packages. >>> >>> My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create >>> a >>> guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want >>> to >>> have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put >>> that >>> IP in my browser and do some testing. >>> >>> VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology. I've >>> said it >>> before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult. >>> Case >>> in point, last year I configured a full-stack host in my home >>> office. >>> This was complete with BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot. With a little >>> studying Bind is doable. Postfix, and Dovecot on the other hand are >>> total enigmas. I probably need to spend 30 or 40 hours to >>> understand >>> setting up and configuring Postfix, and Dovecot. >>> >>> I was able to get things to work, however I still do not know how. >>> >>> PHP is the same in my opinion. To be a PHP dev requires a large >>> stack >>> of technologies. I'm starting to feel the barrier to entry is too >>> high. >>> About 3 years ago I attended several AzPHP meetings and I was >>> amazed to >>> discover that the top programmers actually were embracing this level >>> of >>> complexity. There was one guy,who is accomplished, that actually >>> looked >>> down on anyone who was not at his level. Yikes!! >>> >>> I'm talking about things like Composer and dependency injection. >>> Anyone >>> know there is three ways to configure and use dependency injection. >>> I >>> do not recall all 3 off the top of my head. >>> >>> CodeIgniter 1 and 2 used dependency injection in a way that hid the >>> complexities of dependency injection. It was so subtle that you >>> don't >>> even know you are implementing dependency injection. >>> >>> I really liked CodeIgniter 1 and 2. It hid the complexities of web >>> development and was the closest thing I've seen in web development >>> that >>> was rapid application development (RAD). >>> >>> One of the things I really liked about CodeIgniter was it's >>> simplicity. >>> A middle school kid could learn enough about it in a weekend to >>> start >>> building something. >>> >>> Back to VirtualBox... It is entirely too complicated and I'm not >>> sure >>> why. Can anyone shed light on this? >>> >>> I read that everyone should learn how to program. Why? Programming >>> >>> itself is simple... doing anything remotely useful requires you get >>> down >>> into the mud of the complexities of building an application. >>> >>> I fell in love with programming at the UofA in 1983. I feel in love >>> >>> with Linux in 1998 when a friend told me about it. Yes I'm old. And >>> I've >>> seen a lot. >>> >>> What was VirtualBox created for and does it need to be so complex? >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss