Thanks Bob!! - I am running VB 7.0 - I accepted all the defaults when installing Ubuntu 20.04lts - that means DHCP. - There are no entries in the VP network menu: files->tools->network manger. - Guest network: click on guest : right mouse click->settings->network is set to nat. - ip is 10.0.2.15/25 - sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade both work - This is not my network, I am on 192.x.x.x On 2022-11-15 10:20, Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss wrote: > This sounds more like a network problem than a virtual box problem. > When I set up my virtual machines I use bridged networking and let > DHCP give out the address it should also tell the virtual machine the > route to the internet. > > What IP address are you getting when you have access to the internet, > and what address do you get when you're connected to the local > network? > > This just sounds like a routing issue > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2022, 7:42 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> As you probably know I am struggling to configure Oracle's >> VirtualBox >> for web development testing. >> >> VirtualBox is a mess. I cannot get it to work for PHP testing. It >> will >> either work external so I can build the server OR I can make it >> visible >> to my local net and I am not able to pull in any packages. >> >> My expectation was that I could download and install VB then create >> a >> guest instance and configure my VM as I like, and in my case I want >> to >> have it have an IP on my local private network, and be able to put >> that >> IP in my browser and do some testing. >> >> VirtualBox in my opinion is what is wrong with technology. I've >> said it >> before and I'll say it again, technology has become too difficult. >> Case >> in point, last year I configured a full-stack host in my home >> office. >> This was complete with BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot. With a little >> studying Bind is doable. Postfix, and Dovecot on the other hand are >> total enigmas. I probably need to spend 30 or 40 hours to >> understand >> setting up and configuring Postfix, and Dovecot. >> >> I was able to get things to work, however I still do not know how. >> >> PHP is the same in my opinion. To be a PHP dev requires a large >> stack >> of technologies. I'm starting to feel the barrier to entry is too >> high. >> About 3 years ago I attended several AzPHP meetings and I was >> amazed to >> discover that the top programmers actually were embracing this level >> of >> complexity. There was one guy,who is accomplished, that actually >> looked >> down on anyone who was not at his level. Yikes!! >> >> I'm talking about things like Composer and dependency injection. >> Anyone >> know there is three ways to configure and use dependency injection. >> I >> do not recall all 3 off the top of my head. >> >> CodeIgniter 1 and 2 used dependency injection in a way that hid the >> complexities of dependency injection. It was so subtle that you >> don't >> even know you are implementing dependency injection. >> >> I really liked CodeIgniter 1 and 2. It hid the complexities of web >> development and was the closest thing I've seen in web development >> that >> was rapid application development (RAD). >> >> One of the things I really liked about CodeIgniter was it's >> simplicity. >> A middle school kid could learn enough about it in a weekend to >> start >> building something. >> >> Back to VirtualBox... It is entirely too complicated and I'm not >> sure >> why. Can anyone shed light on this? >> >> I read that everyone should learn how to program. Why? Programming >> >> itself is simple... doing anything remotely useful requires you get >> down >> into the mud of the complexities of building an application. >> >> I fell in love with programming at the UofA in 1983. I feel in love >> >> with Linux in 1998 when a friend told me about it. Yes I'm old. And >> I've >> seen a lot. >> >> What was VirtualBox created for and does it need to be so complex? >> >> Keith >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss