Nice!! My head is on fire!! I think one of you said you were running a Linux desktop VM. Is it possible to configure one machine to do multiple private VMs for testing and development, a production website VM, and a Desktop VM. Would I be able to attach the Desktop VM to two or more monitors? On 2022-10-09 07:02, keith Miller wrote: > if your gonna play with it, a server can be had DIRT cheap > the R-610 I got on amazon for 150.00 32Gig of ram and 2 320Gig drive > (Which I upgraded > I have another server for more play bought it on craigslist from a guy > for 70.00 HP DL360G7, it has 4 2tb drives and 32Gig ram > > al this mounted in a half rack, along with a 24 ports (1gig) Netgear > GS724TI bought at goodwill for $9.99 > > Keith > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022 at 6:48 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> Very exciting what we are to do with modern hardware. >> >> On 2022-10-09 03:43, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> I have run proxmox on Mac minis 4 cores/8 threads and originally >> 8gm >>> ram. I upgraded ram heavily and stuffed in an ssd to run as a lvm >>> cache to the 5400 1t drive and it performed well as a home lab >> server >>> for years. >>> >>> All the rest is use case recommended for a server. Possibly in >>> production. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 9:08 PM wrote: >>> >>>> That sounds scary. >>>> >>>> Ok, so I am coming away with a vCPU is = to a thread. RAM is >>>> fixed. I >>>> read Proxmox requires 2GB of RAM and I was unable to determine >> the >>>> number of cores for Proxmox. >>>> >>>> Proxmox says you will need Intel EMT64 or AMD64 with Intel >> VT/AMD-V >>>> CPU >>>> flag. >>>> >>>> They suggest SSD disks, and redundant Gbit NICs. I assume along >>>> these >>>> lines you would want redundant power supplies. >>>> >>>> Another Question : >>>> >>>> I have a Cox business connection that allows me to run servers >> and >>>> to be >>>> allocated more than 1 static IP. >>>> >>>> I can see me configuring at least 4 virtual machines for LAMP - >> PHP >>>> testing and development, and a VM for a real website. Not all of >>>> these >>>> VMs would be active at once. >>>> >>>> Since I would be running this out of my home office, to be safe, >> I >>>> would >>>> need enough RAM to allocate 4GB of RAM of reach _active_ VM and 2 >>>> vCPUs, >>>> and to be safe maybe 4GB of ram and 2 cores for Proxmox. >>>> >>>> For 4 simultaneously active VMs I would need 8vCPUs (8 threads) >> and >>>> 4GB >>>> of RAM each or 16GB of RAM. Add to that 2 Cores/4 threads and >> 4GB >>>> of >>>> RAM for Proxmox and I would need 12 threads or 6 cores and 20GB >> of >>>> RAM. >>>> >>>> I'm thinking a 500GB SSD would be enough and if I like I could >> add a >>>> >>>> redundant NIC and a redundant power supply. >>>> >>>> Pretty much a consumer grade box? >>>> >>>> Your thoughts? >>>> >>>> On 2022-10-07 18:23, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>> Hit reply too soon. You can share or overprovision ram but you >>>> have to >>>>> enable some features and load a couple of os level drivers to >> make >>>> it >>>>> work. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 9:22 PM Stephen Partington >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And you can share ram across containers not vms. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 9:21 PM Stephen Partington >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> i love proxmox.have used it fir years >>>>>> >>>>>> The vcou is socket x cores x2 if you have hyperv/smt >>>>>> >>>>>> So a 4 core ht cpu would be 8vcpu. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 7:35 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just watched a video that covered the Proxmox Hypervisor. >>>> Seems >>>>>> simple enough. I've used Oracle's VirtualBox for years. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I did some research on what a vCPU is. I was suppressed. >> The >>>>>> math >>>>>> given was (Threads x Cores) x Physical CPU = Number vCPU. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an old laptop that has 1 socket, 2 cores, four threads, >>>> and >>>>>> 4GB >>>>>> of RAM. >>>>>> >>>>>> Given the math (4 x 2) x 1 = 8 vCPUS. Is this correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> From my reading it appears that RAM is not shared, so my >>>> bottleneck >>>>>> is >>>>>> RAM not cores or threads. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am a PHP developer and a local vps would need 2GB of RAM at a >>>>>> minimum. >>>>>> I have found a LAMP VPS will crash if allocated less than 2GB >> of >>>>>> RAM, >>>>>> and will run will on 1 vCPU. >>>>>> >>>>>> The good news is I really only need one VPS to be active at any >>>>>> given >>>>>> time. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I wanted to build a box that could run more than one VPS at >> a >>>>>> time, >>>>>> lets say 4, and I wanted to allocate 2 vCPUs and 4GB of RAM I >>>> would >>>>>> need >>>>>> 4 threads x 2 cores to run the 4 VPS configured with 2 vCPUs >>>> each. >>>>>> >>>>>> What about RAM. Looks like I would need a minimum of 16GB of >>>> ram. >>>>>> >>>>>> How much resources does the Hypervisor need, in this case >>>> Proxmox? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks!! >>>>>> Keith >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > Keith D. 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