Think about the contrast. In 1986 I bought my first computer which was a Commodore 64. That was an exciting time in it's own right. Consumer grade computers and there was that business I went into that was using a Commodore 64 to run their business. On 2022-10-09 03:44, Stephen Partington wrote: > That mini had only one nic. And I ran about 4 containers and 2 vms > just fine. > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2022, 6:43 AM Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> I have run proxmox on Mac minis 4 cores/8 threads and originally 8gm >> ram. I upgraded ram heavily and stuffed in an ssd to run as a lvm >> cache to the 5400 1t drive and it performed well as a home lab >> server for years. >> >> All the rest is use case recommended for a server. Possibly in >> production. >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 9:08 PM wrote: >> >>> That sounds scary. >>> >>> Ok, so I am coming away with a vCPU is = to a thread. RAM is >>> fixed. I >>> read Proxmox requires 2GB of RAM and I was unable to determine the >>> >>> number of cores for Proxmox. >>> >>> Proxmox says you will need Intel EMT64 or AMD64 with Intel >>> VT/AMD-V CPU >>> flag. >>> >>> They suggest SSD disks, and redundant Gbit NICs. I assume along >>> these >>> lines you would want redundant power supplies. >>> >>> Another Question : >>> >>> I have a Cox business connection that allows me to run servers and >>> to be >>> allocated more than 1 static IP. >>> >>> I can see me configuring at least 4 virtual machines for LAMP - >>> PHP >>> testing and development, and a VM for a real website. Not all of >>> these >>> VMs would be active at once. >>> >>> Since I would be running this out of my home office, to be safe, I >>> would >>> need enough RAM to allocate 4GB of RAM of reach _active_ VM and 2 >>> vCPUs, >>> and to be safe maybe 4GB of ram and 2 cores for Proxmox. >>> >>> For 4 simultaneously active VMs I would need 8vCPUs (8 threads) >>> and 4GB >>> of RAM each or 16GB of RAM. Add to that 2 Cores/4 threads and 4GB >>> of >>> RAM for Proxmox and I would need 12 threads or 6 cores and 20GB of >>> RAM. >>> >>> I'm thinking a 500GB SSD would be enough and if I like I could add >>> a >>> redundant NIC and a redundant power supply. >>> >>> Pretty much a consumer grade box? >>> >>> Your thoughts? >>> >>> On 2022-10-07 18:23, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>> Hit reply too soon. You can share or overprovision ram but you >>> have to >>>> enable some features and load a couple of os level drivers to >>> make it >>>> work. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 9:22 PM Stephen Partington >>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And you can share ram across containers not vms. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 9:21 PM Stephen Partington >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> i love proxmox.have used it fir years >>>>> >>>>> The vcou is socket x cores x2 if you have hyperv/smt >>>>> >>>>> So a 4 core ht cpu would be 8vcpu. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022, 7:35 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I just watched a video that covered the Proxmox Hypervisor. >>> Seems >>>>> simple enough. I've used Oracle's VirtualBox for years. >>>>> >>>>> So I did some research on what a vCPU is. I was suppressed. >>> The >>>>> math >>>>> given was (Threads x Cores) x Physical CPU = Number vCPU. >>>>> >>>>> I have an old laptop that has 1 socket, 2 cores, four threads, >>> and >>>>> 4GB >>>>> of RAM. >>>>> >>>>> Given the math (4 x 2) x 1 = 8 vCPUS. Is this correct? >>>>> >>>>> From my reading it appears that RAM is not shared, so my >>> bottleneck >>>>> is >>>>> RAM not cores or threads. >>>>> >>>>> I am a PHP developer and a local vps would need 2GB of RAM at a >>>>> minimum. >>>>> I have found a LAMP VPS will crash if allocated less than 2GB >>> of >>>>> RAM, >>>>> and will run will on 1 vCPU. >>>>> >>>>> The good news is I really only need one VPS to be active at any >>>>> given >>>>> time. >>>>> >>>>> If I wanted to build a box that could run more than one VPS at >>> a >>>>> time, >>>>> lets say 4, and I wanted to allocate 2 vCPUs and 4GB of RAM I >>> would >>>>> need >>>>> 4 threads x 2 cores to run the 4 VPS configured with 2 vCPUs >>> each. >>>>> >>>>> What about RAM. Looks like I would need a minimum of 16GB of >>> ram. >>>>> >>>>> How much resources does the Hypervisor need, in this case >>> Proxmox? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks!! >>>>> Keith >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list: PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss