Ok, throw mud on my head.... or tomatoes at my face.... I use the subscription Canva : https://www.canva.com/ . Normally I would not subscribe to a design software. In this case it made sense since I will consistently need 4 - 20+ pictures a month and the ability to make them into whatever I need. For $12.95/mo I can use any image I want and edit anyway I want. Images can get pricy... so I save money and the Canva editor is very feature rich and is easy to use. And by the way they have hundreds of thousands images. I have found/and used lots of high quality images and they are free with the pro subscription. On 2022-08-31 07:15, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Check out VimOutliner. The first thing to do is change the precommand > from "\\" to > ".." It was changed by the maintainer after the maintainer after me to > fulfill some > Debian mandate. I might fork the darn thing and bring it back to its > true roots. > > When I designed VimOutliner, I made sure to include every feature of > the Grandview > outliner, except clone headlines, which can't be done with a Vim > engine. > > SteveT > > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 12:24 -0700, Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Good to see another Grandview user here!  I originally used PC-Outline >> that >> was included with WordStar all those years ago, but later found >> Grandview >> was an upgraded version.  I run it now under DosBox.  (WordStar, too, >> when >> I really need to write seriously.)  I'm really surprised that there is >> still no open source outlining program similar to Grandview. >> >> *Thank goodness* Linux can run those old proprietary programs. >> >> I would rather have a bag of mosquitoes tied around my head than >> subscribe >> to online proprietary software.  No way I'm going to be chained to a >> treadmill. >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 12:09 PM Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss < >> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, 2022-08-30 at 08:56 -0700, JD Austin via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> > > Adobe doesn't sell CS6 anymore; they're all about the subscription. >> > > >> > >> > What's really cool about the proprietary subscription model is that once >> > you're not >> > subscribed, you've lost your data. Who wouldn't enjoy a situation like >> > that? >> > >> > I don't want any of you to think I'm trying to get sympathy, but in 1990 I >> > started >> > using a spectacular drawing program called Micorgrafx Windows Draw (MGX >> > Draw), and >> > made hundreds of drawings with it. In the late 1990's MGX Draw was sold to >> > a company >> > operating out of a PO box, who promptly sunk it but wouldn't release the >> > source. >> > Unfortunately for me, I still had the install disk, so even today I have >> > the option >> > of running MGX Draw on Wine in order to access my drawings from the >> > 1990's. Totally >> > unacceptable. WordPerfect 5.1 is worse: Being a DOS program all I need to >> > do is copy >> > the WordPerfect 5.1 install directory to my Linux drive, run it under >> > FreeDOS, and >> > access all my 1980's Wordperfect files. This is a horrible invasion of the >> > past. >> > >> > When it came to an outline processor called Grandview, I solved this >> > problem even >> > though Grandview wasn't a subscription. I lost the install CD and the >> > executable >> > tree, so now I cannot look at my Grandview files at all. This is how >> > computing >> > should work: Data over 7 years old must be discarded! >> > >> > Subscription software solves this problem elegantly. Imagine your joy when >> > you go to >> > open an old file, only to find that you no longer have an executable with >> > which to >> > look at the file. Then you might as well no longer back it up, keeping >> > your backups >> > smaller. >> > >> > I just love proprietary subscription software! >> > >> > SteveT >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss