moin moin, I'm experimenting with notion window manager. It's in a window inside another xwdinow display, of course. META is set to "Mod4+" by default, which is alt. But, alt is used by the original WM. I tried combos like shift-alt, ctrl-all, meta-alt and none of them worked to pass through the alt to the notion window. I tried setting META to a variety of things such as '\+', '\\+', backslash+, Shift+Meta4+, Meta1+, Meta2+ and more. Many led to errors when notion started up. Is it possible to get notion to re-read the config without needing to restart? How do you log out of notion? Been needing to make copious use of kill. Where's a list of what the MetaX keys map to? How can I set META to 'shift-alt+' or 'backslash+' or something else that'll work inside another Xsession? Can the META key be changed on the fly? I would like to test with a tiling window manager. I'm not dedicated to notion, but ion and RatPoison are the tiling window managers I've been hearing about for years. I don't necessarily want to end up at a tiling window manager, but I would like to move to more keyboard oriented window manager. I have a lot of windows, so just iterating through them alt-tab style will not cut it, especially since many of them are xterms. I also run many Firefox profiles at the same time. I'm light right now because it's weekend, but still have more than 10 different Firefox windows open using 7 different profiles. Oh, and I have a large display surface with many windows visible at any time. I also use multiple workspaces. Perhaps I just need to use APL, so I can use matrix math to dial in where I want the focus :). Perhaps it's time to finally learn more KDE keyboard shortcuts. I'm open to suggestions. ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "It's your difference that gives you the power that you have." # --Helen Mirren --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss