Thanks!! On 2022-07-24 10:02, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Since it appears that GD isn’t being helpful, get a copyright lawyer > (you might even be able to find one on legalshield.com [3] for cheap) > and go after both the new host owner and GD for a DMCA violation. My > experience has been if such is done and it looks like it might be a > good case, the hosting provider will settle with you real damned fast > in order to avoid a court case. > > -Eric > From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Legal Servicing > Dept. > >> On Jul 23, 2022, at 7:24 AM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> On 2022-07-22 23:05, Joseph Sinclair via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >>> TL;DR Have your friend contact GoDaddy, ideally by logging into >>> their >>> existing account and contacting support from there, and request >>> they >>> delete all content as you no longer control the site and they no >>> longer have any right to continue serving that content. >> Contact with GD was made. They are no help. >> >>> Most likely, the new owner simply didn't make any change to the >>> name >>> server entries when they bought it (domain gamblers tend to do >>> that a >>> lot). >> >>> Basically, the name still resolves to the same site host, and the >>> purchaser is waiting for your friend to beg them to "return their >>> domain" so as to keep the site (and presumably the business) >>> running. >>> Some just kind of wait for contact, others will wait about 90 >>> days, >>> then send email to the website warning of a deadline and demanding >>> heavy payment to not redirect it to a parking page or something >>> similar. >> >> Name Servers:ns11.domaincontrol.com [1] and ns12.domaincontrol.com >> [2] <- that looks like GoDaddy. >> >> His hosting expired a long time ago. >> >> The new guy getting the website seems fishy to me. >> >> My friend paid GD to make contact with the domain owner to see if he >> would sell. GD was not able to make any progress - current owner >> does not respond to emails and the domain has privacy. >> >>> A lot depends on who the host provider is. If, as in this case, >>> the >>> host provider is the same as the domain provider (side note, don't >>> do >>> that in the future; always separate the two so nobody controls >>> both >>> but you), then you may have some issues, but at least in theory >>> your >>> friend can, at minimum, ask that the hosted content (which they >>> still >>> own and on which they hold copyright) be removed. >>> If the host provider is separate from the domain provider, then >>> you >>> could either arrange back payment and regain control, then point a >>> new >>> domain to the site, or ask the host to remove the content (again >>> based >>> on ownership and copyright). >>> In this case (with GoDaddy hosting both), I hope your friend has >>> backups of the site and can redeploy elsewhere, and I hope GoDaddy >>> does the right thing relatively quickly (sometimes they can be >>> difficult in this regard). >>> This doesn't apply in your case, but one other, somewhat ugly, >>> possibility does exist. Some host providers use a domain >>> challenge to >>> identify the site owner if they lose access otherwise (they have >>> you >>> put a code in a dns record to prove you are you). >>> Those are particularly pernicious as anyone with control of the >>> domain actually can steal the site and content by claiming to have >>> forgotten a password (which can result in theft of an entire >>> business >>> identity for purely online businesses, and is a form of identity >>> theft). >>> Always worth checking if your hosting provider uses that option, >>> and >>> ask them to either administratively disable that (permanently), or >>> move to a different hosting provider (assuming you can). >>> Note: Domain challenge to prove ownership of a domain, separate >>> from ownership of the hosting account, is totally normal and >>> reasonable, I'm referencing here using domain challenge to prove >>> identity and ownership of the separate hosting account. >>> Hopefully that helps. >>> Joseph Sinclair >>> P.S. The domain origination date does not change unless the domain >>> is >>> returned to an unregistered state. >> >> Ok that is some good info. it seems this domain "expired" then GD >> held onto it until someone else bought it. >> >> I have heard that the registers can hold a domain for up to a year >> w/o paying the reg fee. >> >> When a domain is auctioned, it is >> never "unregistered", the registration simply transfers after >> GoDaddy >> takes over the registration for non-payment. >> On 2022-07-22 06:45 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a friend who owned http://www.nationwidedr.com/ . It expired >> along with his hosting while he was in the hospital. >> I get the domain was available to be registered. >> Here is the interesting part. Somehow the new domain owner also was >> able to get his WordPress website complete with all of his business >> content. It appears not to have been changed. >> The other part is the domain shows it was registered in 2002, the >> original date it was registered. I thought when a domain expires >> and is re-registered by another it will show it was original >> registered on that second date. Am I wrong? >> Thoughts on how the new registrant got a hold of my friends >> WordPress website? >> The domain and hosting were at GoDaddy. >> Something seems fishy - am I wrong? >> Thanks!! >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://ns11.domaincontrol.com/ > [2] http://ns12.domaincontrol.com/ > [3] http://legalshield.com > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss