I laughed when I read "They got spooked by Trump.". Trump scares a who lot of people on the left. On 2022-03-17 17:00, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Yes, but look into the Fiat money we have. > If they didn't ship the jobs overseas they couldn't keep the > petro-dollar. > > Henry Ford would describe this as a battle between Nationalist and > Internationalist. > The http://www.cfr.org are Internationalist. [1] The support the > banker class and central planners. > They have been running our country for decades. > They got spooked by Trump. > Putin knows the limitations about capitalism and wanted open markets > but with proper regulation. > The bankers and central planners want open and unregulated markets for > maximum profits. > > Look into Bill Browder and Larry Summers and what they did in the 90's > for America after > the fall of USSR. Why did Putin ask Trump if he could speak to Bill > Browder when he first saw him? > They looted Russia and starved many Russians to death with the > blessing of USA's CIA. > > With Nationalism, you develop the resources for the benefit of the > population that resides within the Nation state. > With Internationalism, you privatize resources and they are developed > for the benefit of the shareholders. Capitalism. > > By the way, Russia never wanted Marxism. Guess who funded it? > USA with the help of Jacob Schiff Adam Schiff's great Uncle. The > congressman from California. > Leon Trotsky, aka Lev Davidovich Bronstein, got $20 million from Mr. > Schiff. > > They killed the Czar and his family and it is still a bitter topic > between Russia, America, and Israel > because he was of Jewish decent. > > Why would a banker support Marxism? What is in it for them? > > On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 04:39:41 PM MST, JD Austin > wrote: > >> High gas prices. >> unaffordable housing. >> many households living paycheck to paycheck. >> explosion in crime. >> explosion in homelessness. >> recreational drug use on the rise for a civilization like ours and >> you think this is normal? > > All the above are symptoms of the problem: our politicians sold us out > to support foreign countries while pushing their own agendas. > Politicians sold the trade agreements as a way for American businesses > to make more money selling internationally, but they are competing > with countries with much lower cost of living and much less stringent > environmental standards. When politicians started passing laws that > forced businesses to fund their agendas (like health care), the > related overhead increase kicked off the migration of American > manufacturing jobs to other countries. Within a decade, most of the > manufacturing jobs left the USA. Politicians didn't think about 'the > little people' and assumed they could just get training and other > jobs; only some of them could. The current regime is really pushing > green energy. I'm a fan of green energy, but it's just not ready to > replace everything that already works. It costs more and doesn't work > as well. Only upper-middle-class and above living in urban areas can > afford green energy solutions; politicians are blind to that and so > are a lot of proponents. > > When our politicians created free trade agreements (that weren't fair > to American businesses) almost all remaining manufacturing left the US > along with the related jobs. Every time politicians meddle with > businesses causing their overhead to increase, they cause a shift that > hurts employees and consumers the most. We got cheap, crappy, Chinese > goods that just don't last (made by people they have to put up nets to > prevent them from committing suicide) and the 'throw it away' society > that came with it. It hit a lot of American industries and I'm not > sure we can get them back now. With costs going up, decent jobs > requiring more skill and education, far fewer places to work for > low-skilled workers,and even the so-called help always has rules that > keep the people we are 'helping' poor (make more than X and you get > nothing). it's not surprising a lot of poor people become homeless, > resort to crime, and take drugs. Politicians need to think about 'the > little people' as real people. > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 4:03 PM greg zegan wrote: > >> On top of that in case you haven't noticed the homeless population >> has exploded in the Phoenix area. >> Try ridding the bus-public transportation, with these people who >> sadly in some cases haven't had a bath >> or shower in some time. >> >> Its really sad that the American culture has been broken so badly >> that one has to help others see what >> is in plain sight. We live adjacent to a state with arguably the >> worst homeless population in the country. >> >> Have you ever stopped to ask yourself or others what is the cause of >> all this??????? >> >> High gas prices. >> unaffordable housing. >> many households living paycheck to paycheck. >> explosion in crime. >> explosion in homelessness. >> recreational drug use on the rise for a civilization like ours and >> you think this is normal? >> >> $14 Billion in aid to Ukraine while all this is happening? >> Where is that money going? >> How about a hired mercenary army to fight Russia per the refuges >> from the Middle East. >> Why do you think they pushed for EU to take in refuges from the >> middle East? >> By the way, EU doesn't have children like the previous generations >> did and thee now >> know it takes at least 2.0 children per couple to keep an empire >> alive so these people >> from Africa and others are nothing but blood and treasure to these >> neo-cons. >> >> Tech people are usually some of the smartest in a civilization >> historically speaking. >> As per Thucydides the country that rules in technology rules the >> world. >> >> Surely the breadth and width of your understanding goes further >> than these few talking points. >> >> How about this. >> There is a real effort to turn us all in the West into a Socialistic >> civilization based on Plato's Republic. >> Democracy? >> Try a empire ruled by a Philosopher king as he stated in his book. >> The problem is there is no person >> on this earth that is perfect and never will be. We have a >> Republic, not a Democracy in the USA. >> >> Dig a little deeper and try a little harder to understand your >> world. If you don't find the truth there are >> many out there looking for the naïve to take advantage of. >> >> Plato's Republic. >> Plato's Meno. >> Plato's Timaeus. >> Plato's Protagoras. >> St. Augustine's City of God. >> Aristotle's Ethics. >> Jean-Jacques Rousseau - The Social Contract. >> Jean-Jacques Rousseau - Discourse on Inequality. >> >> On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:35:25 PM MST, JD Austin >> wrote: >> >> It hasn't been near $2 a gallon for 1.5 years. >> https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ >> >> https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:31 PM greg zegan >> wrote: >> >> Are you kidding? >> just over a year ago it was under $2 a gallon. >> furthermore, who is going to commute to work in Phoenix in the >> coming months? >> >> On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:22:12 PM MST, JD Austin via >> PLUG-discuss wrote: >> >> I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than >> surrounding gas stations :( >> I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their >> rectum and open domestic oil production again soon. >> They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before >> Russian invaded. >> If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains >> could be problematic, the last several years should have made it >> clear. >> I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with >> these price increases everywhere? >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in >> florida. >> >> -- >> >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.cfr.orgareInternationalist. > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss