moin moin, I picked up an Acer 2 in 1 with touchpad for kid. We really needed to finally replace the laptop that had been gravity tested a few times at the beginning of the pandemic. First thing kidling wanted was to install Krita ( much disappointment that it wasn't on there by default ). Many hours have now been spent discovering how to use a stylus. My wife is an analog artist, but likes what she's been seeing, so now I need two devices that can use stylii. I had picked up the Acer from Woot and they immediately ran some Samsungs for less money. The Acer requires a little bit of a bios dance to get running with debian ( and a non-free ethernet driver ), but has otherwise been great and much better than the dell we're replacing. A similarly priced Samsung is similar for features, but I don't really compare hardware specs anymore since I don't often buy hardware. Acer: * 10th Gen Intel Core i5-1035G4 * 8GB LPDDR4 * 256GB NVMe Samsung: * 8th Gen Intel Core i7-8565U * 16GB * 512GB SSD There's also a Samsung for $200 less 10th Generation Quad-Core i7-10510U 12GB DDR4 SDRAM 512GB SSD no USB C :( I like the idea of more RAM, but the family doesn't really need that. They don't run containers and databases and test deployments on laptops. Seems a waste to me :). They need pretty decent hardware ( we should have far less drop-testing as that lesson has been learned ), with a decent touchscreen that will work for a while. They do need computers they draw on rather than tablets they compute on. They will be running debian ( or derivative if we must ). Links: https://computers.woot.com/offers/acer-spin-5-convertible-laptop-3?ref=w_cnt_wp_3_6 https://computers.woot.com/offers/samsung-notebook-9-pro13-3-i7-2-in-1z?ref=w_cnt_wp_5_8 https://computers.woot.com/offers/samsung-galaxy-book-flip-fold-laptop?ref=w_cnt_wp_5_3 Also, an opportunity to podcast as root: https://computers.woot.com/offers/sudotack-usb-streaming-podcast-pc-microphone-1?ref=w_cnt_wp_3_1 ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org # "Civilisation is a race between education and catastrophe" -- H.G. Wells --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss