I think we are missing the point. This is America!! We have lost our way. Government was instituted to protect us at the Federal level and protect us, provide water, sewer, roads, and schools and no more at the local level. At the state level the government is supposed to protect us from runaway federal government. As for cars that use too much fuel and computers that use too may watts, let the market place decide not the government. We have a problem in California where they do not clean the forest floor of dead fuel and then they wonder why there are so many wild fires. California is also guilty of not maintaining it's power grid so now they have rolling blackouts. As a side note California also has the most homeless of any place on earth. I read the richest place on earth, silicon valley, has designer trash cans and human excrement on the sidewalks and streets. We have lost our way. We need Government to get out of the way and let the FREE market decide what Americans want to consume and let private business provide those goods and services. As a side note, did you know that America is producing less pollution that it has in the past? By the way CO2 is natural. Plants were CREATED to take CO2 and turn it into oxygen. From the Internet : "Plants are autotrophs, which means they produce their own food. They use the process of photosynthesis to transform water, sunlight, and carbon dioxide into oxygen, and simple sugars that the plant uses as fuel.". I think my neighborhood is doing it's part. We have an HOA that requires each home have a mix of plants per the CC&Rs. All of this is artificial. We pipe water in to the houses and some of the water finds it's way into our drip irrigation. On the other hand this leads some to hire gardeners. These gardeners drive big gas burning trucks and pull trainers full of refuge and power tools - most of which use gas. If I believed in global warming, which I do not, I would be concerned. I could start a blog on global warming. Follow the money. Look at Al Gore who is making money off of global warning and stands to make a ton. If Al Gore was really concerned wouldn't he be concerned about his electric and gas foot print. No he is an elitist that does not care. He has a huge home with huge upkeep. If you want to lead you much lead by example. Al Gore has proven to be a man who wants to make money off of our sufferings. We have been duped. On 2021-08-02 05:41, Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss wrote: > All this bickering is missing the overall point: > > The era of mainstream desktop PCs draining huge amounts of electricity > is over. The expectation is that we now use power efficient PCs, > whether > we like it or not. > > If only the graphics card vendors would make usable high end graphics > cards that don't require 550W all by itself, and 850W power supplies > for > the whole system. > > https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/geforce-rtx-3090-will-require-850w-power-supply-and-12-pin-plug/zb22f1 > > Power efficient electronics have been the norm for awhile, and power > efficiency is a huge deal in laptop PCs and servers (and has been for a > VERY long time). Its only just now caught up to the desktop PC market. > > -Matt > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss