These are the talking points of the left.  Eric gave a good reply.  
Government is instituted to protect us - period.  Let the the FREE 
market decide.

If we do have water wars it is because we are not using technology to 
solve problems.

As for CA I think converted ocean water might be the solution.

I'm 65 and have seen a lot.  I think we are not looking in the right 
direction.  The solutions are there if politics can get out of the way.



On 2021-07-28 01:13, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 22:53:09 -0700
> 
>> So, guys, nice little debate we all got snagged into here because of
>> some state regulations that would prevent nearly 60 million people
>> from owning technologies that would make their lives more convenient.
>> Regulations put in place by politicians who know nothing of real
>> science and are trying to kiss up to china. Now, where does that leave
>> us?
> 
> It leaves us with 60 million people who can't game quite as hard. Boo
> hoo hoo.
> 
> What's this fascination with China that you all have? China uses the
> energy equivalent of 27,018 million barrels of oil for 1394 million
> people, equalling 19.4 barrels per person. The US uses the equivalent 
> of
> 18,684 million barrels and has 328 million people, equaling 56.9
> barrels per person.
> 
> So here's the question: If some country using almost triple the energy
> per person than your country says *you* are the problem and should cut,
> and they won't do squat until you cut, what would you say to them?
> 
> You ask where it leaves us. Hey, if you're 60 years old, it leaves you
> having lived a pretty fun life. If you're 20 years old, it leaves you
> with a very hard (and probably considerably foreshortened) second half
> of your life. If you were just born today, by the time you graduate
> college, the world will be rife with climate refugees and water wars,
> and by the time you're 50, if you last that long, the population
> decline will be brutal and pretty universal except for the very rich.
> All because everybody in 2021 said the other guy should cut his
> emissions first.
> 
> One more thing: Some friends of mine ran the numbers and according to
> them the California computer energy standards aren't as strict as those
> of the EU.
> 
> I feel not a bit of sorrow for the 60 million potential gamers who play
> at a slight disadvantage, if they play at all. I feel sorry for their
> grandchildren.
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt
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