Thanks!! On 2021-07-11 14:54, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Just as general advice. Keep everything private, except the very > minimum you need otherwise. Keep everything disposable, except for > what you absolutely need to persist. Keep everything isolated, except > exactly what communication you need. Doing this will take a LOT of > learning about the systems and how they work, but you should consider > it the base starting point to avoid turning into a host for various > bad actors. Until you feel you won't expose more than you should, you > should probably keep everything locked up in a private network on vm's > that you don't mind recycling on the regular. > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:54 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss > wrote: > >> Thank you Michael for all your replies and for this one!! >> >> I hear ya. It may take too much time.... >> >> Let me ponder your reply. >> >> Thanks!! >> >> On 2021-07-11 12:15, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 11:23 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am talking about a virtual PHP host running Ubuntu LTS, LAMP, >>>> Let's >>>> Encrypt, BIND, Postfix, Dovecot, and possibly some webmail app. >> Not >>>> >>>> sure of anything else I would need. Is there more? >>>> >>>> We can throw in learning Apache SPF and NGINX. >>>> >>>> 1) First question is this a reasonable idea or am I crazy? >>> >>> For learning and tinkering, it's a good idea, production for >> yourself >>> probably not. I set all that up some 10-15 years ago, thought it >> was >>> cool, then got tired of upkeep. If you plan to maintain it right, >> you >>> probably will too. >>> >>> These days any internet-facing service needs almost religious zeal >> to >>> upkeep, lest some jackass use a 0-day to cryptolocker your >> system(s), >>> and if you watch security lists for those, they are still pretty >>> frequent I'll bet. Or you could just pay >> gmail/orfice365/rocketmail, >>> or any other and let all that patching and upkeep be automated by >>> them. I used godaddy mail for a decade, later gmail, and I really >>> don't mind not managing my own email or dns servers ever again >> since. >>> >>>> 2) 2nd question is what skills would I need? >>> >>> The ability to google your ass off mostly. I've not read a how-to >> or >>> protocol or certification-type book in 20 years, trust me it's not >>> terribly practical, and I fifo from my brain quickly. Searching >> how >>> to's and troubleshooting as you do is how you learn. If you must, >> I'd >>> recommend linux academy, udemy, or other online class-type >> courses, as >>> most can be had cheap around holidays with sales, mostly what I do >>> these days to learn if not just searching. >>> >>> Email is email and hasn't changed much in 20 years. Understanding >>> encryption, authentication (ie. 2fa), use of SPF/DKIM with DNS, >>> certificates (openssl, letsencrypt, build your own CA). Security >> in >>> general is pretty key more than knowing how email protocols work. >>> >>> Web stuff is again more about security imho, redirect all >>> non-encrypted to encrypted (tcp/80->443 redirection), proper >>> certs/encryption standards (enable tls1.2, disable rest, strong >>> ciphers). Some vhosts, proxy redirection if needed, etc is >> helpful. >>> If you want to scale, add load-balancing via apache/nginx proxy or >>> appliances (F5, AWS ALB, Netscaler, etc) across multiple hosts. >>> >>> System security is key too. Securing SSH, disabling unnecessary >>> services, local firewall in/out, log monitoring, networking, file >>> system/service integrity, etc. >>> >>> I am not a dev or a sysadmin, more a network guy that ends up >>> troubleshooting systems more than their owners do when they blame >> my >>> network, or just tinkering for myself. IMHO with above, but YMMV. >>> >>> -mb >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > -- > James McPhee > jmcphe@gmail.com > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss