Hmmm. It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for running a home server or two. Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit (recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control over what I want to do. Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only two issues might make this a bit of a problem: 1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare 2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet device are a real pain. Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate. Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have a couple of other goodies runnin. Thoughts? Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD versions of it yet. -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center operations dept. > On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > > Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti. > - - - > > On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >> Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP >> hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management. >> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >>> I should have given more info. >>> I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair >>> amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance >>> I >>> used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox >>> business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be >>> running Ubuntu 218.04LTS. >>> Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I >>> could >>> know more. >>> About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old >>> desktop that way just laying around. It worked well. >>> Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do >>> all >>> my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning >>> project. >>> Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm >>> pretty >>> sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD. >>> Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig >>> maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little >>> information available beyond what ISPConfig provided. >>> So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an >>> Internet >>> connection that does not block ports. >>> Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by >>> Plesk. >>> Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed >>> some opportunity. >>> Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just >>> want to >>> configure that now old i3 and play around with it. >>> What I am looking for: >>> 1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig >>> is >>> a replacement for WHM and Cpanel) >>> 2) Automate creating DNS zone files. >>> 3) Automate creating email accounts. >>> 4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs. >>> Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am >>> not a >>> mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand >>> - >>> maybe sometime in the future. >>> Thank You for All Your Feedback!! >>> - - - >>> On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>> ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites >>> on >>>> your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take >>> much >>>> more time to work with than just standing up a webserver. >>>> If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no >>> alternative. >>>> Things like it are cPanel and Plesk if you want that kind of >>> thing, >>>> but haven't decided on ISPConfig. >>>> If you're just looking at standing up a webserver to do webservery >>>> things, then i'd recommend not getting overly complicated. >>> Install >>>> just what you need so you don't end up with a giant stack to >>> maintain, >>>> instead of focussing on what you're trying to learn. >>>> There aren't many details on what you're looking for as an end >>> result, >>>> so I can't offer much advice there. Generally I stand up a >>>> loadbalancer that takes traffic from the interwebs, and use that >>> to >>>> route to whatever server behind I feel like playing with that day. >>>> But this is very specific to my use case, and not for everyone. >>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>> wrote: >>>>> I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It >>> will >>>>> be >>>>> public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes >>>>> assumptions >>>>> you may or may not be willing to accept.". >>>>> Thank you for your feedback!! >>>>> On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>>> ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server >>>>> and >>>>>> become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes >>> assumptions >>>>> you >>>>>> may or may not be willing to accept. >>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using >>> ISPConfig. >>>>>>> This >>>>>>> is not a production situation. It is for learning. >>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>> Thanks!! >>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> -- >>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent >>> you >>>>> from >>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze >>>>> button. >>>>>> Stephen >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> -- >>>> James McPhee >>>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> Stephen >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss