Oh yeah, and win blows 10 is also an accessibility FUBAR, especially if the windows explorer program dies, then the stupid start bar won’t work. -Eric From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Dangling Accessibility Dept. > On Nov 9, 2020, at 2:57 AM, Steve Litt via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 19:19:29 -0700 > Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > >> Lastly, if we're ever going to see mass-market usage of Linux, > > We already have mass market Linux usage, on the server. If you mean on > the desktop, I haven't seen much movement from Windows desktops to Linux > desktops this century. > >> desktop environments like Gnome and KDE are going to be the ones to >> take us there. > > I think it's statements like the preceding that cause it to be true. > LXDE is very simple, with a panel and a start button, that anybody can > operate. Windows 8 and 10 are messes that must be learned, by trial and > error, over time. > >> Realistically, no normie coming from Windows/MacOS is >> going to want to use something like OpenBox or other minimal window >> managers like DWM, i3, etc.. > > True. They'd need a panel. LXDE, LXQt, and even the slightly bloatier > and less reliable xfce come to mind. > > As far as normies, we've been trying to bring them to the Linux desktop > and failed. Few Linux desktop users are normies. > >> They're going to want it to just work, >> with an interface that has familiar concepts to the ones they're used >> to if it doesn't flat out look like Windows or MacOS. > > From what I've seen of MacOS, LXDE looks kind of like it. As far as > looking like Windows 10, I don't know of anybody who likes that kind of > interface. It was created to make a computer screen look like a > smartphone and vice versa, and became a workflow mess because of that. > > SteveT > > Steve Litt > Autumn 2020 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times > http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss