You can always get a physically very small USB drive and put /boot and the boot block on that.  Then everything else can go on the NVMe. Brian Cluff On 05/25/2018 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Maybe you can get a rip-roaring machine, but how so if that post 2005 > computer can't boot of NVMe? What do you do, take the UEFI info and > the /boot off another drive, and use the NVMe for / ? Or do you boot > off another drive, and then carve up the (assumedly small) NVMe > into /usr, /lib, /run ? Life gets a lot more complicated if the machine > can't boot the NVMe. > > SteveT > > On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:21 -0700 > Eric Oyen wrote: > >> well, the beauty about the "add-in" cards is that you can use any >> PCI-e slot on just about any desktop that is newer than vintage 2005. >> YYou will end up with a rip-roaring fast machine. :) >> >> -eric >> >> On May 22, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: >> >>> Oohh! Oohh!! Something I can answer :-) >>> >>> 1 - yes and no. Yes, you can replace, but no, you (almost >>> certainly) need to get a PCIe card which converts PCIe on the >>> motherboard to NVMe on the ssd. We have one of those at work, not >>> too expensive as I recall. >>> >>> 2 - You should be able to. Don't know if that's implemented or not. >>> >>> 3 - /dev/nvme0n1 as an example. So, for SATA, its /dev/sd for >>> nvme, you get a /dev/nvme0 and then you get /dev/nvme0n1 for the >>> actual drive, as I remember. I don't remember what the partitions >>> turn up as, but I THINK they were /dev/nvme0n1p1 or something like >>> that. A second NVMe drive would be /dev/nvme0n2 I think. >>> >>> 4 - it should. Now, you MIGHT need some updated stuff, for example >>> smartctl may or may not work with NVMe on your distro. And you'll >>> probably need to download the nvme tool that gives you control sort >>> of like hdparm. Using an 'old' distribution might be a problem >>> (for some value of 'old') >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] >>> On Behalf Of Steve Litt Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:30 PM >>> To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> Subject: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer? >>> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:57:29 -0700 >>> Brian Cluff wrote: >>> >>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about >>>> the same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. >>> This is the first I've heard of NVMe. I just read >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express , and now have some >>> questions: >>> >>> 1) Can I replace the spinning platter 2.5" hard disk in my 5 year >>> old laptop with an NVMe device? My research tells me an NVMe must >>> plug into a PCIe slot rather than a SATA slot. >>> >>> 2) Do you fstrim NVMe-hosted partitions the same way you do for SSD? >>> >>> 3) When you install an NVMe card in a PCIe slot, what device name >>> shows up? Is it sd-whatever, or something else? >>> >>> 4) If my desktop has a free PCIe slot, does that mean I can plug in >>> an NVIe drive and use it? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> SteveT >>> >>> Steve Litt >>> June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss