On Wed May 23 18, Jerry Snitselaar wrote: >On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote: >>The Evo 960 is an NVMe drive. >> > >Yes, and that is what I said below "moved to an m.2 nvme drive". I was >just agreeing with you that you can see a real boost when doing something >with heavy disk IO. > >>The part of the confusion around M.2 is that it will support 3 different >>connections. PCIe x2 PCIe x4 and Sata. and you have to look at the "key" >>locations to verify what is what. >> >>Puget systems has a nice KB on de-obfuscating this >>https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/ Reading that again, yes people should make sure they are getting something that uses pcie and not sata. >> >>On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Snitselaar >>wrote: >> >>>On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote: >>> >>>>In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to >>>>load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are >>>>crazy fast. >>>> >>>> >>>Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various >>>branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when >>>I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960). >>> >>> >>> >>>On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD. I have and SSD in my desktop and it >>>>>boots >>>>>much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe. They are not totally the same, >>>>>however I think they are close enough. I think some of the performance >>>>>is >>>>>based on who made the NVMe or SSD. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>>> >>>>>For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about the >>>>>>same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system. >>>>>>They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so >>>>>>they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer. >>>>>>They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at >>>>>>it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough >>>>>>to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle >>>>>>itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and >>>>>>the same thing can be said of the GPU. >>>>>> >>>>>>My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get >>>>>>new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost. >>>>>>Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for >>>>>>making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so >>>>>>crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket >>>>>>compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD. >>>>>> >>>>>>Brian >>>>>> >>>>>>On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following >>>>>>>road. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video >>>>>>>card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go >>>>>>>with >>>>>>>something that had decent resolution. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work >>>>>>>/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro- >>>>>>>15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external >>>>>>>mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches >>>>>>>each. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for >>>>>>>4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share >>>>>>>utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and >>>>>>>play so I can use all it's features. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen. >>>>>>>Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is >>>>>>>also mobile. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Now this configuration is what fits my needs. What are your needs? >>>>>>>Are >>>>>>>you editing images or videos? Are you a developer? Or are you >>>>>>>researching >>>>>>>Linux, or is your research about external things? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3 >>>>>>>and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an >>>>>>>external >>>>>>>backup drive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale : >>>>>>>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have two cheap used laptop running these. Great performance and as I >>>>>>>recall they have a 5 year warrantee. I use one as a Linux web server >>>>>>>for >>>>>>>testing. The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load >>>>>>>Mint on >>>>>>>it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything >>>>>>>external, using mostly free stuff. I do some video editing so I may >>>>>>>need a >>>>>>>little more power. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I am planing to build a Linux computer. I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old >>>>>>>>Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer. So "I will be >>>>>>>>going where where others do not dare to go." I want a VPN on it >>>>>>>>because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now >>>>>>>>have. I want a 64bit OS. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux. I >>>>>>>>need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use. What would you do if you had >>>>>>>>to build your own Linux computer from scratch? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks for your input. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Mike Enriquez >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>>>rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>> >>>>Stephen >>>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------- >>>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >>Stephen --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss