Are you sure the "NVMe" in your laptop is actually an NVMe and not just a sata SSD in an m.2 form factor or an older NVMe that only uses one PCI channel? There are a wide variety of NVMes out there with a broad range of specs.  It's definitely not worth the money to save a couple of bucks on a low spec modem.  Especially since the difference in price is not very much. Brian Cluff On 05/22/2018 09:57 PM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: > > > I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD.  I have and SSD in my desktop and it > boots much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe.  They are not totally > the same, however I think they are close enough.  I think some of the > performance is based on who made the NVMe or SSD. > > > > On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote: >> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe.  They are about the >> same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. >> >> If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system. >> They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so >> they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer. >> They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at >> it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough >> to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle >> itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and >> the same thing can be said of the GPU. >> >> My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get >> new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost. >> Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for >> making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so >> crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket >> compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD. >> >> Brian >> >> On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>> >>> If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following >>> road. >>> >>> I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded >>> video card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I >>> would go with something that had decent resolution. >>> >>> A laptop like this one : >>> http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038 >>> >>> I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external >>> mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 >>> inches each. >>> >>> Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint >>> for 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen >>> share utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be >>> plug and play so I can use all it's features. >>> >>> At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen.  >>> Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that >>> is also mobile. >>> >>> And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing. >>> >>> Now this configuration is what fits my needs.  What are your needs?  >>> Are you editing images or videos?  Are you a developer? Or are you >>> researching Linux, or is your research about external things? >>> >>> For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an >>> i3 and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an >>> external backup drive. >>> >>> I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale : >>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676 >>> >>> I have two cheap used laptop running these.  Great performance and >>> as I recall they have a 5 year warrantee.  I use one as a Linux web >>> server for testing.  The other I might use for an experiment. I'd >>> like to load Mint on it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd >>> like to do everything external, using mostly free stuff.  I do some >>> video editing so I may need a little more power. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote: >>>> I am planing to build a Linux computer.  I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old >>>> Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer.   So "I will be >>>> going where where others do not dare to go."  I want a VPN on it >>>> because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now >>>> have. I want a 64bit OS. >>>> >>>> I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux.  I >>>> need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use.  What would you do if you had >>>> to build your own Linux computer from scratch? >>>> >>>> Thanks for your input. >>>> >>>> Mike Enriquez >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss