On 2017-09-06 13:48, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his
> computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource
> user!

It's *usually* not that bad/high.  Building one particular Android 
project causes this older machine (16G, 2 core i5, 500G SSD), to be 
almost unusable for as long as it takes all the java to 
compile/link/build.  Ordinary Android projects and standard browsing, 
mail clients, apache, and so forth run fine.  I don't know what 
precisely they did to make that project be an enormous hog.  It's not 
even particularly complicated.

> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum
> required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he
> didn't exactly say that, but it was implied)

I probably have fewer tabs open than almost anyone.  9-15 usually.

Steve Litt wrote:
> Firefox is a total pig. Most other browsers tie up much less
> resources, especially with a lot of open tabs, especially with
> challenging javascript encumbered sites.
> Also, IMHO when you start to see your browser(s) run slowly, it's
> time to start closing tabs. If you have a tab that you're for sure
> going to have to have later, bookmark it.

Yes, pretty much.  I find that closing tabs helps, but firefox is a 
collection of code parts written by the lowest bidder and flying in 
extremely close formation around a memory leak.  I try to restart it 
every day, which seems to work.  And I'd guess that people use tabs 
instead of bookmarks because they retain approximately where you were on 
a page (good for really long pages), and there's less commitment.

Aaron Jones wrote:
> Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. [...] thanks to bloat and Lennart
> Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte
> ssd just to be effective.  The future is here ladies and gents...
> and it is gloriously unoptimized.

Modern programmers don't seem to care about optimizing things.  
Curiously enough, KDE 5 is fairly snappy for me on a machine with only 
8G.  Opening a link with gwenview in a dir that contained 17000 links to 
other images pegged the CPU for a while as it generated thumbnails for 
all the links and preloaded a bunch of them.  I'm not sure how often 
people do that sort of thing--it was more of a "what happens if I stress 
this program out a lot?" than anything.

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